new laws on reptile shows

[jav07]

new laws that past today regarding reptile shows
http://www.defra.gov.uk/news/2006/061010a.htm

[cornmorphs]

its only a porposal at this point, although it will be in by next year at some oiint., just means we will all have to just to private sales only then eh.

[crosby]

Originally Posted by cornmorphs

its only a porposal at this point, although it will be in by next year at some oiint., just means we will all have to just to private sales only then eh.

I think I know what you mean but are you tired or just had a couple drinks

[Andy]

As before, pet fairs that do not involve the sale of animals, or that do involve the sale of animals but not in the course of a business, can continue without the need for a licence

i would say that the private breeders meetings would therefore be OK as they aren't run in the course of business rather people selling excess reptiles they have bred themselves. To be perfectly honest if the last Doncaster show was anything to go by we wouldn't be missing much anyway but it would be a shame nonetheless.

[bribrian]

I heard that the Doncaster show was the best in years, was it not then....

[cornmorphs]

i know its not good for the hobby, but for breeders it wont make much difference, for buyers it will be a nightmare.

[mark67123]

Maybe I'm reading it wrong - but to me it looks like actual breeders wouldn't be allowed to sell (as a breeder could be seen as a business) whereas non-breeders (amateurs if you like) could buy and sell all they want.

And would the 'private' breeeders meetings really now have to be private if animals were to be sold? I.e. not advertised publicly in any way?

I've probably got the wrong end of the stick, but this looks more like something put in place to silence the animal welfare lot, rather than an actual, enforceable law.

[purejurrasic]

I still have my man looking at all this, but as far as I understand it, breeders will be ok as they are selling thier own animals. I belive the 'business' aspect related to those who buy and sell animals, such as those who get shed loads of WC animals imported.

I do However belive that all breeders should be licenced, much like the current petshop system, but as a seperate entity.

I further belive that these licences should be produced when taking a table at a show.

In addition, I belive that ALL shows involving animals that need anything other than basic care should be 'member only' shows, and thay all reptile keepers should be a member of one society or another.

My 2 pennies worth, sure there are those who disagree !

[cornmorphs]

it wont affect most sellers anyway, but it will affect the buyers.
people, breeders, will still sell... its just going to be harder for newbies to start up and find contacts.

[mark67123]

Do you mean it will affect buyers in that there'll be no public shows anymore? All shows would have to be members only?

If that's the case then could the entrance fee to a public show simply be termed a "day membership" for the host club/society? In much the same way as you can go fishing on a privately run fishery by buying a day-ticket, instead of a full yearly membership.