Making websites for people :)

[Youngy]

Originally Posted by vampkittie

Who the heck was bullying? Its called constructive critisism which you are supposed to take on board and improve

If someone had accepted your services you could expect them to tell you exactly the same during the creation process

You obviously are looking at going professional in the future or you would not be looking to gain experience

To be honest I think that you should practice a little more before offering your services...you definitely have the basics down but you still have a long way to go

Don't be put off by constructive criticism...take it and use it to your advantage and I'm sure that you will do well

I know, i understand that it isn't perfect, but i didn't ask for critisism, i just started html so i expect this but people are complaining about my spelling which has nothing to do with it.

[exotic reptile housing]

i tell you what guys give the lad a break will you all, he is offering to help people like me who are not so advanced in computers, he didnt ask for advice he was actually trying to help people on here and for nothing, free free free i give him thumbs up...

luke i trust you, i look forward to seeing what you come up with for me, afterall it would be better than any thing i could produce on the web..

chin up

[Youngy]

Originally Posted by exotic reptile housing

i tell you what guys give the lad a break will you all, he is offering to help people like me who are not so advanced in computers, he didnt ask for advice he was actually trying to help people on here and for nothing, free free free i give him thumbs up...

luke i trust you, i look forward to seeing what you come up with for me, afterall it would be better than any thing i could produce on the web..

chin up

Thanks man, this is what i was trying to say.. everyone expects me to be a professional coder and apparently a professional speller? but bare in mind i am doing this for free..

[vampkittie]

If you are serious about giving this a go then I think that you need to look at the graphical side with the HTML

I work as a graphic designer so if you need any tips just send me a PM and I will be happy to help....If you can get both the design and HTML aspects working together you should come up with some pretty good sites

[Youngy]

Originally Posted by vampkittie

If you are serious about giving this a go then I think that you need to look at the graphical side with the HTML

I work as a graphic designer so if you need any tips just send me a PM and I will be happy to help....If you can get both the design and HTML aspects working together you should come up with some pretty good sites

Ok thanks, i'll make sure to message you after done building a site

[Ssthisto]

Originally Posted by Youngy

Thanks man, this is what i was trying to say.. everyone expects me to be a professional coder and apparently a professional speller? but bare in mind i am doing this for free..

Youngy, I'm sorry, but by the time I was fourteen I'd taken second place in two city-wide spelling bees. And that was BEFORE Microsoft Word had spell check.

In this day and age there is no reason not to run your text through a spell-checker.

Originally Posted by Youngy

Ok thanks, i'll make sure to message you after done building a site

Graphic design is an integral part of designing a website in the first place - you need the graphic look and feel of the site before you start the programming.

Look into meta tags - keywords and descriptions specifically.

I'd strongly recommend spending some time on W3Schools Online Web Tutorials and useit.com: Jakob Nielsen on Usability and Web Design to learn how people use sites and how to build sites that are easy to use.

Something else to remember is that if people offer constructive criticism it's because they want to HELP you improve.

I've been working in website design professionally for a couple of years now (no, sorry, I don't build websites for herp folks - I do it all day at work, I don't want to come home and do it too, sorry...), so I'm not totally talking out of my backside.

Examples of sites I've worked with as project manager, concept design and content management:

JTM Service Ltd, exceeding expectations in the cleaning needs of Leeds and the North of England (nominated for a WSI Web Award)
Banana Moon, Embroidered Clothing, Embroidered Apparel, Custom Embroidered Clothing (In process of a redesign)
Gifts 2 Go, Gift Hampers, Gift Ideas, Unique Gifts, Unique Presents
Brulimar Optical Group, designer Branded Optical Frames and Eyewear, Playboy, Action Man, Pepsi (recently redesigned - the graphic look and feel is mine, though I must admit this was my LEAST favourite design and there's no accounting for client tastes).

This one's my own, done 100% by me, and I programmed the majority of it in Notepad:

www.dragonsintheattic.com

In this last one's case, the graphic design of the site "makes" it. I'll be doing something similar once I swing 'round to doing my reptile-related site.

[exotic reptile housing]

hi this is what luke has done for me in a couple of days for free!!! (well i donated a viv for his time)

the lads a smashing kid and a great help

thanks luke!!

Exotic Reptile Housing - Custom Vivs, Various Sizes.

[Youngy]

Originally Posted by exotic reptile housing

hi this is what luke has done for me in a couple of days for free!!! (well i donated a viv for his time)

the lads a smashing kid and a great help

thanks luke!!

Exotic Reptile Housing - Custom Vivs, Various Sizes.

No problem..

[Asha]

Some nice sites there Ssthisto!

I dabble part-time myself... mainly using a mixture of HTML and Dreamweaver. It's not something I could concentrate on full-time due to other interests now, so I just concentrate on simple HTML sites. My portfolio is at [AshaTank.com] photo - web - art (website examples are on there, still working on getting my photography up as I've been too busy with uni to get round to it!)

Happy to do simple sites for people from £150, and I throw in .co.uk or .com (or anything else!) domains for free. I sort out the hosting too.


Good on you for offering free sites Youngy. Just make sure you maybe provide some more info on what exactly you're providing in future?

Obviously anything you do at this stage is giving you more experience, and you can only get better as you get older. Take on board any criticism here as constructive advice only, it can only help you.
The basic sites you're doing now is the kind of work I was doing at a-level, so I would have been dead chuffed to be producing it at only 14!

[vampkittie]

Wow thats great for only a couple of days work!

The only think that I would say is...give the site a more structured layout i.e something like this:



At the moment your background is a little overpowering and i think that a banner at the top would make all the difference...Keep a structure like this throughout the site and it will look great

I hope that you dont take this as me having a go at you....I am just giving you a little advice from a graphic design point of view