Breeding projects...

[Athravan]

I do corns & beardies, and the OH does boas. It is definitely better to specialise I think, time does run out in the day after a while.

[Philcw]

Yeah will defo specialize in certain reps, that is why i was looking for more to be able to slightly expand the range of reps to be done.

With a small team you have more knowledge,finances,time,space etc... between you

[Athravan]

I don't really get how it works though, when it comes to advertising, selling, collecting etc. how does it work if you have a "team" ? Do you all share bills, profits? Or is it just like you advertise for each other?

Just never heard of breeding "teams" before unless it's people who actually coshare a business.

[Philcw]

Well you can look at it in numerous ways i suppose.

By team i mean investing an equal share, providing breeding partners (for the reptiles that is lol). Providing space for each other were needed, general help in any shape or form, Will be sharing percentage profits as will be breeding on mass scale, using some for distributing, working on commission etc...

There is another reason me and another member are looking for a few more but its still at planning stages atm and will be made public when the ball gets rolling, and hopefully it will be great success

And yes we will be advertising for each other and doing all we can for each other as long as it doesn't undercut any of the others ofc

[SWsarah]

Originally Posted by Philcw

lol i know whats it like, hense why im looking for a small team lol



What species are they?



Would you consider selling and female cresties?

Oh no took me ages to get the females. im keeping my babies until they are sexable.

[HadesDragons]

Originally Posted by Philcw

Well you can look at it in numerous ways i suppose.

By team i mean investing an equal share, providing breeding partners (for the reptiles that is lol). Providing space for each other were needed, general help in any shape or form, Will be sharing percentage profits as will be breeding on mass scale, using some for distributing, working on commission etc...

There is another reason me and another member are looking for a few more but its still at planning stages atm and will be made public when the ball gets rolling, and hopefully it will be great success

And yes we will be advertising for each other and doing all we can for each other as long as it doesn't undercut any of the others ofc

To be perfectly honest, I think you'd be pretty hard pressed to find anyone who's established who would want to be part of a "team" - if they were thinking the same was as you, they'd probably be more likely to look for employees than partners, unless it was someone local to you and you shared a premises or something... You might be able to find "recruits", but I imagine virtually everyone interested would be just starting out like you are...?

I personally would hate the idea of things being run by a committee - if I want to do something, I'd much rather be able to go and do it, rather than having to run the idea past everyone else on the "team" who has invested in it and may have different ideas about the way in which things should be done etc. I think unless it was a local partnership with just a single premises and a single set of co-owned animals, it's going to be very hard working out investments / returns for people on the "team" - particularly once you get into higher-end animals where individual investments are high - as well as making decisions etc. Whilst the idea of providing breeding partners is potentially workable, reptiles need a lot longer in quarantine than something like a horse or dog, which are more commonly studded. If you followed quarantine (and you'd be stupid not to), you couldn't let someone else quarantine for you. This would make the idea being inefficient almost to the point of being unworkable, and it would probably end up better for an individual just to own a male and female animal. You'd also have the problems of splitting income - is it right that whoever provides the male gets the same return as the owner of the female, who probably paid more for the animal in the first place, fed her up, then raised the babies? If you don't think it's fair for them to get the same, how do you decide how you will split any income? By ratio costs of the parents? By time invested overall? By time invested in raising the babies? By a massive formula with 20 different variables?

It's a nice idea, but so many "grand" plans such as this are doomed to failure, unless you already have a lot of experience. Most businesses etc that stand the test of time are those that started small and grew naturally and "organically", rather than someone deciding straight off to build a large, forced, "empire"-type business with minimal previous experience. It's a hard market to get into in a big way - it takes time to get reputations and sales up. This is more crucial for the survival of a large-scale project that would flood local markets, as they can't just rely on local convenience factors to sell things - they have to rely on having a good reputation to be able to sell things further afield. Unless you have massive capital behind you to support potentially years of losses / no profit, starting big is pretty much a non-starter.

Personally I'd be more inclined to start small and breed a couple of species on a small scale - this will give you experience of actually breeding animals and raising offspring, as well as giving you ideas about the size and limitations of local markets. Whilst you are only doing it on a small scale, you can be developing the reputation you will need to expand into the wider markets, without constantly having the need to "force" yourself into them.

To use an analogy, you wouldn't jump into deep water before you've learned to swim. You'd start in shallow water to get your bearings etc, and build up. Jumping in at the deep end means you would fail - you'd need rescuing, and would probably have to leave the water. By working your way down from shallow water means you can learn slowly as you go along, and build up the skills you need to survive in the deeper water. You'd be even more hard-pressed to find people who can swim who would be willing to jump into deep water with you, if you all have to be able to swim in order for things to work successfully - most people I know would rather jump into the deep water on their own, rather than relying on others who may or may not be able to swim...

Just my 2p worth...

[Philcw]

lol thanks for your input, didn't expect quite so much but some very good key points there.
As i said there is an under lying reason that i am looking for a team for a particular project that i will make public once ball gets rolling.

As for jumping in deep end i already have experience in breeding over 15 different species of reptile and have kept herps for a number of years.
Regarding your comment about a committee and running things past people first, it wont work like that, everyone is entitled to do what they want with there own herps, but when it comes to 'studding' etc... then it is a different matter.
And yes im aware that quarantine is vital as i have done it alot of times before.