Are the RSPCA allowed to inspect your house without permission?

[bradhollands999]

Originally Posted by ditta

the police and fire service let them in!!!!!

How lovely of them!! Did they have a warrant? I'm pretty sure even the police can't enter your property without your permission unless they have a warrant.

[DazedLewis]

Originally Posted by neep_neep

Don't forget though, it isn't yet certain that the RSPCA put the beardie in the box.

It's possible a police or fire officer, as the first on the scene, might have removed it from the tank. If they saw it gaping, they might have thought it was due to smoke inhalation or similar, so took it out to await an assessment from the RSPCA to decide whether it needed a vet. Now, your typical fire officer or copper wouldn't know one beardie from another, so isolating it to ensure the correct one was looked at might have been logical to them at the time. I can imagine that dealing with a fire is quite a stressful situation and decisions are needed to made in a hurry - In this case, the outcome shows that it was the wrong decision, but they may have thought they were doing the right thing. They may have told the RSPCA that the beardie was in the box and the RSPCA forgot, or they might have forgotten to tell the RSPCA about it full stop. Who knows?

As well as chasing up the RSPCA, I would also try and contact the police and fire brigade, see if they can help shed any light on the matter.

I'm so sorry you've had to go through all this, I cannot imagine what you must be feeling right now I hope it all gets cleared up soon, both the beardie situation and of course the house!

Good point, sometimes one just gets a scenerio stuck in their head and can't think of other possibilities XD

[Vicky12]

Well I can safely say that the fire service wouldnt have given a second thought to the animals as I had our local fire station out to fit new smoke detectors.

During my discussion with them I said about the dogs who sleep in the kitchen and their answer was along the lines of "You get out first and forget the animals"

Well you can imagine my thoughts Yeah like im gonna leave my dogs trapped in my kitchen and my torts....I dont think so. Not saying that I wouldnt get my family out first but I certainly wouldnt leave my animals in the house.

With regards to the RSPCA. I **think** that if the police and fire service thought the animals were in danger they can call them in, but please dont quote me on it as I dont know for sure.

My mum has a good contact in the RSPCA, if I remember I will try and ask her to make a few enquiries.

Hope you manage to get things sorted soon, its disgusting that no one has been out to see you from any of the services.

[xXFooFooLaFluffXx]

Originally Posted by bradhollands999

How lovely of them!! Did they have a warrant? I'm pretty sure even the police can't enter your property without your permission unless they have a warrant.

yeah but they hardly have time to seek a warrant when the house is burnin down do they? by the time theyve got it there would be no house TO enter! so i can see how in this circumstance they wouldnt need one but as chris newman said, the police wouldnt let the neighbours get the dogs or cats out who are members of the public but yet they let the rspca inspectors in with no problem at all <<even though they are no one of any authority and again just members of the public>>

[bradhollands999]

Originally Posted by xXFooFooLaFluffXx

yeah but they hardly have time to seek a warrant when the house is burnin down do they? by the time theyve got it there would be no house TO enter! so i can see how in this circumstance they wouldnt need one but as chris newman said, the police wouldnt let the neighbours get the dogs or cats out who are members of the public but yet they let the rspca inspectors in with no problem at all <<even though they are no one of any authority and again justmember of the public>>

Oh, i thought this all went on a couple of days after the fire. Did they rescue all your pets then?

[feorag]

Originally Posted by ditta

and no the rspca still havnt returned our many calls!!!!!

I think you should get back onto them and tell them you are sick of waiting for a return call. Tell them you have a problem with the way one of your pets was left after the emergency and are trying to find out what happened to it, so it is important that whoever came to your house contacts you to give you the information.

Then tell them if no-one rings you back you will consult a solicitor and go to the press about how they treated the animal. Doesn't matter if they didn't put it in the tub, they were in the house and they inspected your animals, so logically even if they didn't put it in the tub, they certainly didn't do anything about it being in such totally wrong conditions!

[ogawa only]

the RSPCA dont have any right to enter any property , even if the police turn up at my house with a warrent , and bought the RSPCA with them , i cant refuse entry to the copper's , but i can them . like many people have said they have no right's what so ever . if they dont return your call , go to the local paper and make a show off it , let people know just what muppets they realy are .

[littlespark]

yes well said. its a shame they've treated you this way and you are looking after animals properly. I have repeatedly reported a shop for the way they treat their animals and nothing has ever been done. I would say they have no idea what they are doing and like to interfere, it obviously shows they have no idea about how reptiles should be kept. End of. Go to the papers or a solicitor. they'll reply to you then.

[The Roach Hut]

Hi hun. u know im a fireman!!!! well when there is a fire in the house and thee animals present it is our opertaing directions to contact RSPCA for those animals to arrange a check up with qualified vets if required. they had permission from the fire service to enter ur premises and thats how they can do it, cause once a fire happens in a house the fire authority has juristriction on what happens. until all life has either been saved or removed.... until this happens not even the police can decide what goes on

Originally Posted by xXFooFooLaFluffXx

If you have read the RIP thread you will know we had a house fire today. We were out on a job at the time around 3 hours away from home so got a friend to come round to the house. When we got home she said the RSPCA had been there lookin at the animals, they left us a little assessment form with their thoughts on- all were fine apart from some didnt have access to water- which were some beardies that have never drank out of a bowl n get sprays, and a uro that gets water put in once a week as advised by the seller, and also "is the animal contained in the right environment?"- they said no........but yet questions further down the page ask if the animal is kept in the correct environment to express its normal behaviour, is protected from pain, injury, disease, suffering fear or distress- to which they say yes- which is refering to their housing. so how HTF can they be kept in the correct housing free from all those things but yet not being contained within a suitable environment? im assuming they are referrin to the amount of animals we have, but all are in vivs so it makes no difference to them how many are in one room n so i dont see why this is relevant? all other aspects were fine.

the thing is the RSPCA did this before we got home, without our permission n had gone before we got back...apparently its procedure when animals are involved with a house fire......some have told me thats complete crap n they had no right coming into the property like they did, does anyone know whats true? i think the police phoned them, as i said, they told my friend it was standard procedure, so can the police allow them access without our consent? We havent actually seen or spoken to a police officer or a fire man!!!!!!!!!

Also i was mortified to come in n find this on the cooker



For some strange unknown reason theyde taken one of our beardies out its 4x2x2 viv with 2 other beardies in, n put it in a tiny f*ckin daz tub with a few tiny air holes punched into it!!!!!!!! it stank of lemon liquid and the beardie that is actually a citrus snow and a lovely yellow colour, was all dark and very stressed!!! WTF did they move him out his viv?!!? rung the RSPCA but the inspector wasnt there so he will ring me when hes in. When asked if i wanted to take part in any phone and customer service questionarres on the phone i said " no cos i dont think much of the RSPCA!!!!!!" just wait til the inspector rings me! poor beardie!





what do you guys think?!