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The RSPCA have NO rights to enter your premesis. Id get in contact with the police and ask why they were allowed on your premesis. Legal action may be required if no warrant naming individuals allowed on the property was issued (which i assume it hasn't since the police didn't give you one). What they have essentially done is trespassing, moving animals about and endangering their lifes after an incident that was harmful to them by putting them in a tub that has traces of chemical's. Id check your other animals too to see if any have been removed.

Im willing to be they are assuming your too stressed about the house to actually deal with them.
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Old 18-08-2008, 01:37 AM
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The RSPCA have NO rights to enter your premesis. Id get in contact with the police and ask why they were allowed on your premesis. Legal action may be required if no warrant naming individuals allowed on the property was issued (which i assume it hasn't since the police didn't give you one). What they have essentially done is trespassing, moving animals about and endangering their lifes after an incident that was harmful to them by putting them in a tub that has traces of chemical's. Id check your other animals too to see if any have been removed.
all animals are accounted for chris! ive checked!

you get my pics hun?
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Old 18-08-2008, 01:54 AM
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all animals are accounted for chris! ive checked!

you get my pics hun?
I did and sam will see them tomoz as my phone is messing up. Looking at the damage caused by the fire and the amount of animals you have i was expecting more fatality's to be honest but thankfully thats not the case.

Good luck and keep us updated.
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Old 18-08-2008, 03:03 AM
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First off girls i'd like you to know you are in my thoughts at this time and i'm sorry for your losses.

I have tried to find out what i can and this is the only thing that i found searching the internet.


RSPCA inspectors have the same status as any other private individual. As explained above, the AWA is a common informers’ Act, so anyone can prosecute. This is the same as the 1911 Act and a lot of other legislation. The RSPCA have not been given, nor have they sought, any new powers.

· RSPCA inspectors have no rights of entry or inspection and enjoy none of the statutory powers of enforcement which under the Act belong only to the police or inspectors appointed under the Animal Welfare Act as Animal Welfare Act inspectors.

· If an RSPCA inspector wishes to enter private property he would need to be accompanied by a police constable or an Animal Welfare Act inspector. Both a police constable and Animal Welfare Act inspector must comply with the provisions on enforcement and entry as set out in the Act.

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http://www.countryside-alliance.org.uk/political/general/enforcement-of-the-animal-welfare-act-2006/
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Old 18-08-2008, 09:10 AM
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Poor beardie and I absolutely agree with you Cat it would appear that they had no good reason to move it, unless it was gaping and they thought it was suffocating or something, but logically a little tub in the kitchen when it was in a large viv downstairs just doesn't make sense.

And I must be honest as soon as I saw the photograph my first thought was "smell" - washing powder smells so strong it hangs around forever sticking to the plastic. poor little beardie!!

Let's know what happens and if they haven't rung you back by now (it's after 9:00am) ring them again and keep ringing them until you speak to someone. This is not acceptable!
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oh cat and ditta im so sorry u have had to oput up with this, i hope after a full nights sleep all the animals are ok, and u and ditta are ok
the poor little beardie squashed in to a tiny smelly washing powder tub, why they have done that to the poorr little mite i would phone them today and demand to know why.
how bad is the house?
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Old 18-08-2008, 10:35 AM
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i dont think as a organization they have the right to enter your house BUT if they were listed as a police advisor (i cant remember the official title) as some behaviour expert/physiologist /physics are then they can at the police's request (but the individual has to have all the right forms signed etc) but i dont think thats the issues

personally i would make a serious complaint and attempt to have whoeva put that beardie in the daz tub fired for animal cruelty not only was it in a confined space but exposed to harmful chemicals. u do have a case and u could get the guy fired. (and i hope u do)

it could quite easily been another tragedy.

p.s. sorry about your losses
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Old 18-08-2008, 10:40 AM
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Surely if you were an RSPCA officer you would try to learn about ALL animals? just shows that they dont really care after all...

Poor beardie, hope he/she is ok...
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Old 18-08-2008, 10:50 AM
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hello Cat

IM just off phone to ditta... IM so so sorry im far away and cant come help.. you both know I would in a heartbeat if i was closer...

Ive no idea bout the rspca... i just want you to both know IM so glad everyone else apart from the wee leos are ok..

I will talk to you both later..

Scott me and the girls send our love as always , I am just sorry we cant be nearer to help...

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The RSPCA have NO rights to enter your premesis. Id get in contact with the police and ask why they were allowed on your premesis. Legal action may be required if no warrant naming individuals allowed on the property was issued (which i assume it hasn't since the police didn't give you one). What they have essentially done is trespassing, moving animals about and endangering their lifes after an incident that was harmful to them by putting them in a tub that has traces of chemical's. Id check your other animals too to see if any have been removed.

Im willing to be they are assuming your too stressed about the house to actually deal with them.
they would have been allowed access by the police because of the fire, to make sure the animals were ok. Ok they're crap and know nish about reptiles but the police need to call somebody in to check them.

1 - police let them in and they're trespassing
2 - police don't let them in and there's demands to know why nobody checked to make sure the animals were ok
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