Dont you think this has gone on long enough?

[tomsdragons]

this is my point...

i use to run a bearded dragon rescue ( tomsdragons!)...lol
but i stopped, at one point i had over 20 dying beard dragons on my door step, all requiring treatment, and so i stopped doing it..
why?..

i use to think, il help someone, if they get stuck, or they are in a bad place etc with there reptiles, but out of nearly all the dragons i took in, most were young owners, or people on benifits..

now..

i persoanly think its fine to keep reptile on any income, if you can cover your self..

but..

when people go out, smaoke/ drink/ put a boy racer stripe down there crap ford fiesta and then cant feed there dragon, or cant take it to the vets, im left with sodding vet bills, and the costs of helping them..

so, my view is this... REPTILES are not pets, so stop buying them if people CAN NOT take the time, or make the effort..
as for fluffy things, im the same, cant afford it, dont bleeding have it..
its terrible that people see a baby corn, and go, oh bless.. OH BLESS!!.. what!!??.. its a snake, a reptile, a species that you have never read about, but its 2 oh wow, how cute".. get a life!..

dont buy one cus its nice, buy it cus you want to learn, understand it, if you have done your resaearch, and you actaully have a "love" for a species then fine, but having one to show off, to bragg about, to want to breed to make a few ££ is not what REPTILEs is about..

( am i going off topic here?!)...lol

anyway, its like most things, impulse buying, cover all the ares, make sure you knwo what is required from the animal, and you as an owner...

rant over..
making cup of tea...

anyone else for tea?....lol

[Gerry4292]

Whilst i can understand the ops point he is making,
I have to say that there are ways around these problems.
Even on a low income,its called insurance.
I pay about £200 a month out in insurance for my dogs / reps /birds of prey.Now that may seem alot to some people,but to me its worth it.
They are all covered by top level insurance,if I couldn't afford that much i would lower the type of insurance cover to one i could afford.
Even if that meant just basic emergency cover.Anything is better than nothing.Imo.
Gerry.

[sparkle]

Originally Posted by tomsdragons

this is my point...





i persoanly think its fine to keep reptile on any income, if you can cover your self..

but..

when people go out, smaoke/ drink/ put a boy racer stripe down there crap ford fiesta and then cant feed there dragon, or cant take it to the vets, im left with sodding vet bills, and the costs of helping them..

so, my view is this... REPTILES are not pets, so stop buying them if people CAN NOT take the time, or make the effort..
as for fluffy things, im the same, cant afford it, dont bleeding have it..
its terrible that people see a baby corn, and go, oh bless.. OH BLESS!!.. what!!??.. its a snake, a reptile, a species that you have never read about, but its 2 oh wow, how cute".. get a life!..

dont buy one cus its nice, buy it cus you want to learn, understand it, if you have done your resaearch, and you actaully have a "love" for a species then fine, but having one to show off, to bragg about, to want to breed to make a few ££ is not what REPTILEs is about..

( am i going off topic here?!)...lol

anyway, its like most things, impulse buying, cover all the ares, make sure you knwo what is required from the animal, and you as an owner...

rant over..
making cup of tea...

anyone else for tea?....lol

MAN id LOVE a cuppa

[tomsdragons]

sugar?....lol

[repti-mon]

Originally Posted by tomsdragons

anyone else for tea?....lol

Tea would be lovely thomas thankyou ever so much for offering, i'm so parched i've a mouth like ghandi's flipflop

[SiUK]

I dont agree, if an animal needed treatment and I had no money til the next week, then I would be borrowing to treat it, there is absolutely no excuse for not taking an animal to the vet that needs to go, its cruelty.

[tomsdragons]

lol.... tea all round them...
il go put the kettle on, sugar repi-mon?..

isnt it nice when everyone gets on...lol

[Gerry4292]

anyone else for tea?....lol[/quote]

No sugar in mine thanks,any chance of some bickys/cake to go with it.

[sparkle]

Originally Posted by Meko

and that is in response to what? who mentioned my happiness?



you can piss off if you think i've got the time or inclination to read your ramblings just to try and justify yourself to yourself.

then dont question me... YOU questioned me.. YOU invited a response is that too difficult for you to accept or understand.. nice how when others are putting across the same view as myself about it being legal and moral to treat sick animals,now youre calming down.. or did you think EVERYONE would agree with you meko....

seems now i have a genuine arguement against YOUR ramblings babe ... you cant quite cope with answering back.. but hey thats what happens when youre arguementative like you and I Meko.. once the other side has given several valid points it stops being an arguement and starts being a debate...

so lets keep it simple..

you dont have the cash then dont have the animals..
legally and morally it is your responsibility to care for them .. if they are sick OR well

there was that simple enough chicken.. and I am not the only one on this thread stating that..

there are various viewpoints on this thread.. just because ours differ does not make you a bad keeper or person... so dont take it personally just consider both sides..

[sparkle]

Originally Posted by SiUK

I dont agree, if an animal needed treatment and I had no money til the next week, then I would be borrowing to treat it, there is absolutely no excuse for not taking an animal to the vet that needs to go, its cruelty.

watch out Mekos about...

you do know that




In all seriousness I agree..

Iam just glad there are both viewpoints on this thread..

I am sick of saying poor you to people who say they cant even afford basic vet treatment.. what is it with that type of sub-culture in animal keeping