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Old 29-09-2008, 07:44 PM
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the difference is a pc game or a toaster or whatever wont die in your care due to lack of knowledge. im not saying that its all the shopkeepers fault but would you sell something that youve bred to someone that cant provide for the animal.
yes but in theory thats then putting 70% of the responsibility for the animals wel fare on the shop keepers, if the customer does no pre-research and goes only off the word of the shop keeper then the shop keeper is held liable for anything (within reason) that goes wrong.

ive been into shops were ive posed as a casual first time keeper and asked can white lipped tree frogs be kept with red eyes, i know they cant, but if i was new to the hobby then i would have believed what i had been told.

and as for the honest shops who give out advice as best as they can, they cant always dictate whos a responsible keeper and whos not. i know some pretty scruffy people who by first impressions i thought were plonkers and didnt know what they were doing. turns out their quite the professionals... its like the person who manages the educational department were i study at uni, looks like a hobo but knows alot more than i first thought.

in theory a pet shop is like any other, the only differnce being that they sell live stock. granted if the shop is asked for husbandry advice, they should provide it honestly, but theres so many differnt species available now a days and the hobby is so new that information provided by shops cant always be accurate.

as is the way with 'hobbies' the practice is were you really learn, but with it being a hobby that involves living animals the stakes are alot higher, to simply expect pet shops to provide all the information and then proceed to make accurate judgments of customers based off of first impressions is unfair.
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Old 02-10-2008, 05:02 PM
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i saw an absolutly georgious corn and fell in love immediatly but i then came home came across this site asked a few questions and read a few care sheets and then went back the next day qand brought him but i am glad about here as the shop mentioned nothing about matstats and you did here so i brought one thats the best piece of mind thing ever invented

thabnks to everyone here and stoping impulse buys is good as i could also have a boa bearded dragons chams
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Old 02-10-2008, 06:24 PM
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I have to agree with sparkle - you can get bad advise also from breeders/shops etc and although most people have the internet some people still dont and you can end up thinking you did do things right for blah amount of time then find out its been wrong!! This site is good for info/adice/support and I also agree that people need to take on board constructive criticism for the animals welfare if need be!!
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I have to agree with sparkle - you can get bad advise also from breeders/shops etc and although most people have the internet some people still dont and you can end up thinking you did do things right for blah amount of time then find out its been wrong!! This site is good for info/adice/support and I also agree that people need to take on board constructive criticism for the animals welfare if need be!!

you can report a shop for giving out wrong advice.
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Old 03-10-2008, 12:43 AM
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before i got my geckos i read everything i could find online about them but its different to finding this forum and having other people give you advice! and all new people are going to have problems if its your first lizard, the silly small stuff is going to worry you sick because its all new! and i read all posts related to leos so if i have a problem chances are someone already has! and a LOT of stuff i have found out on here wasnt on any other sites! i agree if people go into this knowing nothing then its just unfair to the rep but a lot of newbies (like me!) have tried and read a lot of stuff (seriously ask my boyfriend he hates me now cos al i talk about is the geckos!) but just need some advice from experienced people!!
also the pet shop i got my first gecko told me to use calcium sand so i ignore them now, when i asked if they had a young female same age as mine the girl i spoke to didnt know if 2 females could be housed together!
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