my OH doesnt agree with keeping reptiles..

[DRACONODON]

Originally Posted by Athravan

If he does not agree with keeping reptiles, he must also not agree with keeping birds, hamsters, rabbits, fish - these animals are also not domesticated, and are essential captive bred versions of wild animals (in the case of fish, often wild caught animals). Does he tell people who keep budgies, parrots, hamsters, and fish that they shouldn't be kept as pets?

If he singles reptiles out then he is a hypocrite, as long as the environment is correct and the needs are met there is little difference between exotic reptiles and exotic birds, exotic mammals or exotic fish.

Very well spoken i couldnt agree more

[beege_3]

My father in law often says things like this, but yet he used to keep rabbits, dogs etc. If someone in china god knows how many hundreds of years ago never started keeping dogs as hunting companions etc then would he agree with keeping wild dogs?

It's a no brainer arguement that often comes up when there are underlying issues imo!

Also theres the fact that if noone ever started keeping WC animals, and the amount of deforestation etc, would there be any hope at all for the survival of endangered animals?!

Sorry if this sounds full on, I'm not the best at explaining what I am trying to put across especially when its across the net where you cant exactly tell the tone its meant.

[beege_3]

Originally Posted by VoodooWitchDoctor

If any animal is captive bread, it would die if released into the wild.

It wouldn't know what to do.

I wouldnt of thought so, they have survival instincts and I would think that yeah you may have losses, but there would be some that would strive.

[gtm]

My wife is similar - she just about tolerates the tortoises because they go in the garden in the Summer. I wanted a Gecko but I was'nt allowed one on the basis 'they look miserable in vivariums' & I have to put up with her flatulent, gormless greyhound.

[cooljules]

Originally Posted by beege_3

I wouldnt of thought so, they have survival instincts and I would think that yeah you may have losses, but there would be some that would strive.

yeah, stick a 100000 cb tokays back, they would be fine.....disease and worms etc might be a problem

[Spider Call]

Originally Posted by Shelly24

of course you do, they are just a little blander, no curtains! HAHAHA!!

Lol! XD

I am so making a little house for my crestie with little curtains <_< He would 'LOVE' it -snort-


I do however have somehting to say on keeping birds D:

I think unless you are actually going to provide space so it CAN fly you should not have them.
They are smart D: And get so bored ; ;
There was a cockatoo doing his nut at the store near us And a macaw behind glass.... And I just stood and looked at him... His eyes looked dead ; ;
I don't think the macaw would even be able to spread his wings in the width..

[beege_3]

Originally Posted by cooljules

yeah, stick a 100000 cb tokays back, they would be fine.....disease and worms etc might be a problem

I dont know alot about Tokays personally, but im sure there would be some that survived.

[NXSmiggy]

just my 2p worth, but comparing the lifespan of lets say a wild beardie to a captive one

are they any better in the wild

sure we remove alot of things that they require from the wild suce as intensive heat, a copetition for food and incredibly high UVB levels, but also remove things suce as risk of impaction, localised predators, food shortages.

I for one belive that even though keeping "Wild" animals can be considered wrong, it firmly falls into 2 seperate camps , with no one sitting on the fence.

im fine with keeping them , as long as they are cared for with love and devotion.

[Master_Of_Darkness]

Originally Posted by Athravan

If he does not agree with keeping reptiles, he must also not agree with keeping birds, hamsters, rabbits, fish - these animals are also not domesticated, and are essential captive bred versions of wild animals (in the case of fish, often wild caught animals). Does he tell people who keep budgies, parrots, hamsters, and fish that they shouldn't be kept as pets?

If he singles reptiles out then he is a hypocrite, as long as the environment is correct and the needs are met there is little difference between exotic reptiles and exotic birds, exotic mammals or exotic fish.

you could even argue that its actually worse to have some of the common pets like cats and dogs, because not only are they also from the wild originally, but they are inbred so badly that many "breeds" suffer a huge range of issues throughout their lives...

[_jake_]

Myself personally, I don't agree with keeping Wild caught animals, unless, they were trying to bred to create a Captive collection for the better of the species. But Captive Bred I have no problem with, they were born into captivity, and will leave in captivity. IMO, Leopard gecko's, Cornsnakes and other common reptiles are almost as domesticated as dogs, period. And again, with keeping birds its abit eeky with me, i have no problem with Budgies and cockatiels as they have been in the pet trade and captivity for so long, i see them as 'pets' aslong as their needs are met. But when it comes to magnifficent birds like the Macaw, i strongly agree they shouldn't be kept in cages and should have a huge aviary were they can fly. just my opinion.