Hamm prices (March 2007)

[cornmorphs]

Originally Posted by SCI

There just the same as corns,apart from
species identification of course.

i ment in the morphs department, not quite on the same scale just yet.

[Ssthisto]

Originally Posted by cornmorphs

i wont be looking at buying anything as an odd snake anyway, so thats not likely to happen.
a little research will be ok, its nothing like corns (yet lol), so i'll get the hang of it in no time..
i have years anyway, my biggest female 'may' be ready in a year, but i wont have a male ready, so got time on my hands for it,.

From what I've read about the housies so far, it's best not to breed a female until she's at least three feet long and preferably three years old. Younger ones CAN breed but probably shouldn't given they're prone to multiple clutching and wearing themselves out.

House snake morphs can be interesting...

For example, from what I understand... Albino house snakes are capensis. The albino gene hasn't been found in fuliginosus yet, though you'll find plenty of albinos LABELED as fuliginosus... because capensis hasn't been identified as a separate species for that long. I don't know about the hypos yet - I think they're fuliginosus? I've seen photos of anerythristic fuliginosus, but they don't look anything like an anery corn - more like a caramel since they still have all the yellows.

I don't know what the heritability of the fuliginosus phases are in Housies - what you get if you breed, say, a "black" phase to a "cinnamon" phase, or a "red" phase to a "green" phase...

As for breeding, from what I understand, it's easier than corns. Namely: Open viv, insert male, watch breeding commence, take male away as soon as he's done or the female will multiple clutch like nobody's business.

[cornmorphs]

3ft and 250 grams is the minimum really..
my biggest female is about 100 grams i guess, so could make next year, i'm not going to push them, i never do.
the ones i am after are these:-
olive
zululand
anery zululand
albinos
thats it really, will be happy with what i have then.
i have been speaking to a guy in the usa about an import and the prices were really good, but its the wrong time of year to do it, i want to do it for hamm in september really so i might start looking for another breeder.

[Ssthisto]

Originally Posted by cornmorphs

olive
zululand
anery zululand
albinos
.

I'm pretty sure the majority of those are capensis - though the "olive" phase might be fuliginosus.

I want the "lace" morph Fulis - and my dream at the moment is a black phase Fuli male.

[cornmorphs]

cool, well the prices were quite good, its justgetting them here

[SCI]

I'm pretty sure olives aren't a phase they are
a species in the own right of one of the following.
Olive House Snake – Lamprophis Olivaceus
South African Olive House snake – Lamprophis Inornatus
And there is also the Yellow Belly House Snake – Lamprophis Fuscus
which is sometimes confused with the olive.

[cornmorphs]

yeah just been having a nose on it all.
at the end of the day, i will buy pairs, grow them up and only breed them with each other anyway, the only other one i want to do is to make stripes go into some of the others once i know which are compatible.

[SCI]

I'm pretty sure the stripes are Lamprophis Lineatus,
which likely wouldn't be compatible mate.
Buy this book it pretty much cover most house snakes.

Amazon.co.uk: A Complete Guide to the Snakes of Southern Africa: Books: Johan Marais

[cornmorphs]

yeah i thought that too, although i was told they were brown house striped.. so fuli'
doesnt matter a great deal.. i would just like to try and keep and breed them.