reptile shops in kent???

[blood and guts]

Originally Posted by Dave-Flames

with that kind of attitude nobody will bother to set foot in and find out for themselves.

Sadly its the same attitude you get in there and yes ive been back and was as distcusted as i was on other visits. Makes billiricy look good and thats saying a awful lot.....

[Dave-Flames]

Originally Posted by blood and guts

Sadly its the same attitude you get in there and yes ive been back and was as distcusted as i was on other visits. Makes billiricy look good and thats saying a awful lot.....

wow that is really saying something!

[ladyofdragons]

Ok people here's a question for you. IF the shop is that bad why has the RSPCA and the local council NOT ONCE seen or found a problem there? I understand everyone has differing opinions, but im sorry when a reputable reptile vet actually SENDS people to see Mr Still at petaholics for advice on reptile keeping he has to be doing something right. And lastly, he has been in business for over 20 years, so that in itself says something.

[madshawty]

Originally Posted by kodisbabe

Theres a newish shop in chatham/gillingham, next to the wyevale garden centre

Went there yesterday and was probably one of the best ive been to so far, not that i have been to many but still! They have got some gorgeous beardie babies in there!!

[blood and guts]

Originally Posted by ladyofdragons

Ok people here's a question for you. IF the shop is that bad why has the RSPCA and the local council NOT ONCE seen or found a problem there? I understand everyone has differing opinions, but im sorry when a reputable reptile vet actually SENDS people to see Mr Still at petaholics for advice on reptile keeping he has to be doing something right. And lastly, he has been in business for over 20 years, so that in itself says something.

The rspca do very little with shops, hell there not that great themselves are they (if you dont agree on that you really do know nothing) and eho normaly know little about reptiles as well.

As for the vet, name them either by pm or on here as i would very much like to look into there background/reputation and if they are that good great as i will need a new vet when i move that side of the thames.

And your last point, the worst shops i know are all long term affairs witch is very sad when some truly great places have come and gone. The amound of time says nothing about how good they are but more about a lack of options, many newbies and the skill/knoledge of those buying from them.

As i said i went in there again since earlyer posts on this thread, i found the people in there very very rude and the set ups of very poor standard. I will say no further on this issue for the time being, im due in that area again in six weeks and will decide on any further info at that time.

[Dave-Flames]

Reptile Vet, Animal Vet, Veterinary services in Maidstone, Kent

Thats the only vet you should use. He was the vet at the show yesterday.

[blood and guts]

Originally Posted by Dave-Flames

Reptile Vet, Animal Vet, Veterinary services in Maidstone, Kent

Thats the only vet you should use. He was the vet at the show yesterday.

Thanks dave

[ladyofdragons]

and that is the vet that sends people to petaholics thanks for posting it for me guys

[JessicaR]

I have to say that Petaholics is not a very good pet shop at all. Not only is the condition of the animals completely diabolical, but the owners attitude is more of one looking to make the most profit from the animals, not someone who particularly cares for the wellbeing and welfare of the animals.

I am a local and every time I have been in there it is dirty. The poor parrot at the front of the shop that has been in the same cage with no enrichment since I can remember going into that shop years ago is still sitting there, just existing. The cages that are filled to the brim with rats, hamsters and mice are disgusting. Although they are clean, the volume of animals crammed into those small cages is ridiculous. And the fact that the RSPCA haven't commented on this just shows how much they want to dea with problems like this. I remember one occasion when they had kittens in the back room where they keep the bulk items. I saw about 5 kittens in a small crate, when the staff member walked out of the room, the light was turned off. Keeping the kittens in a dark room and in a small confined space, superb examples of caring for the animals!

I have to say as well, the condition of the large pythons upstairs is terrible. The fact that they are crammed into that small place is ridiculous.I have been to a 'private party' when he was at the local primary school for the summer fete. The 'party' consisted of him bringing out animals and allowing the children to handle them, as much as they wanted. So you can now throw animal welfare out of the window as these so called 'education parties' are nothing more than exploitation of the animals. I took my child away when I realised that there were bearded dragons, chameleons and snakes being kept on the floor in bags where children were walking around! And the 60 year old tortoise he was so proud of was sitting in a storage bin in it's own excrement and urine.

The attitude of the owner and care staff is also terrible. The way you are spoken to is as if you are not good enough to be in there, patronising and downright rude especially from the owner. The way he 'advised' me was that I should be buying everything from his shop, a good example is how he lectured me on how I should keep a rat in a large cage he had for sale, how ironic when the cage was larger than the one he puts 15 rats in when he breeds them! I am sure rats and mice enduring laboratory research live in better conditions than those in his shop!

The also remember than iguana, and don't think I ever saw it able to move around in the cage he was confined in. I have also seen the repatiles with ailments that shouldn't be there if they were kept in suitable conditions.

[chelleo1]

Hi all, i just found this thread and wanted to respond to lots of things.

I used to work in Petaholics, the shop is a total disgrace, the animals are kept in revolting conditions, cramped, unhygienic, poor conditions etc etc, i used to be told to sell as much as i could when selling any animal, he did keep kittens in the dark out the back, he has kids on a weekend to clean out the reptiles, Steve himself does know a lot about reptiles and birds, pity he doesn't pit it into practice,

Floor 3 was mentioned, yes there is another floor he uses to store his not for public eyes, which the public are not meant to see or go up, thats his private area. He kept monkeys up there when i worked there, 1 i brought off him, a brown capped cappachin monkey, for which i had to get a license for,

I left there and he was reported several times by various customers but he always managed to have things sorted (stories i won't post on here )

Steve doesn't care about the animals at all they are just a £ sign to him, he kept Buster the blue and gold Macaw in a tiny cage,

The stairs are roped off to stop the kids running up there,

I wouldn't recommend Petaholics if you paid me......... bout time he was shut down,