for once a bad pet shop gets prosecuted

[mask-of-sanity]

Originally Posted by Julie&James

I think we're done here.

James

yes i think we are..

[mask-of-sanity]

Originally Posted by Liz_n_Mark

First of all i'm not defending or throwing stones at the people who are involved in this case,but i do know that the RSPA do not always know the full details of each animal they are investicating.I have a good friend who keeps & breeds show pigeons(he was also was employed by the council to remove nuicense pigeons) and a number of other breeds of birds/fowl.After a complaint from the people next door he recieved a visit from the rspca who looked at all the animals he had,they decided to remove one pair of chickens(and report on the welfare of all the other birds) as the rspca officer was concerned about the lack of feathers around the neck area(even though my friend provided written and photographic proof that the chicken should look like that).Well to keep it short my friend provided more proof that the birds in question were supposed to look like that from DEFRA,the chickens were returned and no further action was taken.So all i'm saying is that even sometimes the experts get it wrong
Mark

i understand that they can get it wrong but what about the pm's i recieved after this thread was getting personal towards me, anyone that has sent me a pm i have asked for them to put what they have told me on here.....i do not have a vendeta towards the shop owners i just linked a thread that anyone could of found on the net

[cooljules]

Originally Posted by mask-of-sanity

i understand that they can get it wrong but what about the pm's i recieved after this thread was getting personal towards me, anyone that has sent me a pm i have asked for them to put what they have told me on here.....i do not have a vendeta towards the shop owners i just linked a thread that anyone could of found on the net

could you pm if the url's to what you found on the web, if you wont put them up here, would like to know a little more, and see for myself...as with what has been said so far, a lot, like illigal to keep in rubs n tubs etc isnt good legally for most people

[mask-of-sanity]

Originally Posted by cooljules

could you pm if the url's to what you found on the web, if you wont put them up here, would like to know a little more, and see for myself...as with what has been said so far, a lot, like illigal to keep in rubs n tubs etc isnt good legally for most people

all i did was google it tbh , more than happy to do it again, just got to feed the snakes first as they smell food

[cooljules]

Originally Posted by mask-of-sanity

all i did was google it tbh , more than happy to do it again, just got to feed the snakes first as they smell food

please when you can, cheers

[kato]

Are People really that Stupid, that they think that because people discuss what is in a local newspaper, that these peolple are only basing the information on those articles?

All these snippets in the papers are available for all to see and for all to digest how they wish. But at the end of the day it means nothing at all what the papers say - or does it?

The fact of the matter is, these Papers have all reported what the Courts have decided. That Court decided a GUILTY Verdict. So do we all say hay hoe lets not listen to what the Law says or the Papers say and live on Cloud Cuckoo - No Chance!!! They have made a mistake and in the eyes of this Country they are Guilty of numerous counts of cruelty. It does not matter whether it is the Council or the RSPCA, a guilty verdict is a guilty verdict.

Yes they can Appeal. Anyone has the Right To Appeal - but only if New Evidence comes to light. The Law is quite clear on this. Personally I fail to see what New Evidence can be submitted for an Appeal.

[Julie&James]

Originally Posted by kato

Are People really that Stupid, that they think that because people discuss what is in a local newspaper, that these peolple are only basing the information on those articles?

All these snippets in the papers are available for all to see and for all to digest how they wish. But at the end of the day it means nothing at all what the papers say - or does it?

Right, it means very little what the papers say because most of the time they make up whatever they want if they think it will sell papers.

The fact of the matter is, these Papers have all reported what the Courts have decided. That Court decided a GUILTY Verdict. So do we all say hay hoe lets not listen to what the Law says or the Papers say and live on Cloud Cuckoo - No Chance!!! They have made a mistake and in the eyes of this Country they are Guilty of numerous counts of cruelty. It does not matter whether it is the Council or the RSPCA, a guilty verdict is a guilty verdict.

Would you like me to google a list of miscarriages of justice, or cases where the british legal system, or the courts, made a huge mess of someones life unjustly ? I'd be happy to do so, but I warn you that the list will probably span several pages.

[cooljules]

Originally Posted by kato

Are People really that Stupid, that they think that because people discuss what is in a local newspaper, that these peolple are only basing the information on those articles?

All these snippets in the papers are available for all to see and for all to digest how they wish. But at the end of the day it means nothing at all what the papers say - or does it?

The fact of the matter is, these Papers have all reported what the Courts have decided. That Court decided a GUILTY Verdict. So do we all say hay hoe lets not listen to what the Law says or the Papers say and live on Cloud Cuckoo - No Chance!!! They have made a mistake and in the eyes of this Country they are Guilty of numerous counts of cruelty. It does not matter whether it is the Council or the RSPCA, a guilty verdict is a guilty verdict.

Yes they can Appeal. Anyone has the Right To Appeal - but only if New Evidence comes to light. The Law is quite clear on this. Personally I fail to see what New Evidence can be submitted for an Appeal.

did you read what they were found GUILTY and NOT guilty on? some things found guilty of is what 99% of people do, and is recomended .....

[kato]

Originally Posted by Julie&James

Right, it means very little what the papers say because most of the time they make up whatever they want if they think it will sell papers.



Would you like me to google a list of miscarriages of justice, or cases where the british legal system, or the courts, made a huge mess of someones life unjustly ? I'd be happy to do so, but I warn you that the list will probably span several pages.



Yes they can Appeal. Anyone has the Right To Appeal - but only if New Evidence comes to light. The Law is quite clear on this. Personally I fail to see what New Evidence can be submitted for an Appeal.

[/quote]

You can Google as much as you like, what ever tickles your fancy. But I think that it is about time that some folk realise the truth.

Yes, miscarriages of justice happen (I don't need Google to tell me that), but do you honestly think that this is a Miscarriage of Justice?

[Andy]

I never keep snakes in RUBs, its not something I personally agree with. But thats by the by, these people by their own admission kept animals in filthy conditions and it has bitten them on their arse. If people cannot keep the animals they have clean and watered then they are keeping too many.