Bitchy

[kemist]

Originally Posted by Jamie

How many forum members does it takes to change a light bulb?


1 to change the light bulb and to post that the light bulb has been changed
14 to share similar experiences of changing light bulbs and how the light bulb could have been changed differently
7 to caution about the dangers of changing light bulbs
1 to move it to the Lighting section
2 to argue then move it to the Electricals section
7 to point out spelling/grammar errors in posts about changing light bulbs
5 to flame the spell checkers
3 to correct spelling/grammar flames
6 to argue over whether it's "lightbulb" or "light bulb" ... another 6 to condemn those 6 as stupid
2 industry professionals to inform the group that the proper term is "lamp"
15 know-it-alls who claim they were in the industry, and that "light bulb" is perfectly correct
19 to post that this forum is not about light bulbs and to please take this discussion to a lightbulb forum
11 to defend the posting to this forum saying that we all use light bulbs and therefore the posts are relevant to this forum
36 to debate which method of changing light bulbs is superior, where to buy the best light bulbs, what brand of light bulbs work best for this technique and what brands are faulty
7 to post URL's where one can see examples of different light bulbs
4 to post that the URL's were posted incorrectly and then post the corrected URL's
3 to post about links they found from the URL's that are relevant to this group which makes light bulbs relevant to this group
13 to link all posts to date, quote them in their entirety including all headers and signatures, and add "Me too"
5 to post to the group that they will no longer post because they cannot handle the light bulb controversy
4 to say "didn't we go through this already a short time ago?"
13 to say "do a Google search on light bulbs before posting questions about light bulbs"
1 forum lurker to respond to the original post 6 months from now and start it all over again.

I love this its stunning (i admit to copy and pasting on a non rep forum). Its so true and can i be the lurker?

On a serious note i can see both sides. Some questions are really stupid and it is irrisponsible to buy a rep without a clue i can understand why people go OTT and snap. On the other hand the mistake has alredy been made and bitching at noobies will only slow down how quick they learn how to actually care for their animals. Keeping reps is a learning process even when you research mistakes will happen( myself included) surely how they are corrected is the important part.

[Cheeky-x]

Honestly though the Q's people ask is stupid,

do i need a heat bulb for my beardie?

is my gecko ment to have 12 legs?

blah blah blah x

[OrigamiB]

Basic questions for basic people!

I always find it annoying when people as questions for stuff which is written on just about EVERY caresheet in existence! xD
Stuff like..... what temperature? What size viv? etc etc.....

If people can find this site then surely they can locate the nearest search engine? =P

[sparkle]

Originally Posted by x.froggy.x

Yeah, sometimes you will post a question, and then you get really nasty messages back! Sometimes, they should re-read their posts, and ask them selfs wether it is ok, or wether it is nasty

I agree at times people can fly off the handle for no reason but thats life.. some peole can be overly harsh when frankly theres simply no reason to.. I have seen that and we can ALL be guilty of it on OR off forum..

HOWEVER....

the problem with what you suggest is.. I dont have the same sensitivity as other people.. If you ask a stupid question such as...

My lizard hasnt ate for 3 weeks and wont drink water and its poo is green...

and I suggest ( or anyone suggests taking it to vet) the reply often is...

NO I cant afford it.. or no i dont like vets

... then a stupid reply deserves to be treated calmly at first but if the person insists on being a poor keeper asking ridiculous questions to avoid feeling they need to treat their animal correctly or take it to vet then frankly I dont care whether they BEGIN to see my nasty side...

Animal cruelty from negelect is apparant daily on this forum.. many of these threads the poster simply wants reassurance NOT to take the animal for vets cheks or to be told AWWWW dont worry your reptile is fine just give it a little cuddle.. Ive spent hours week after week sometimes helping just ONE forumite with multiple animals with mupltiple issues only to be lieds to.. said they have been chekced at vet when they havent ( and yes ive called vets at times to double check various things when something is approaching serious animal neglect and bordering on cruelty)... with serious problems such as suspected crypto or underfeeding towards extensive anorexia.... 2 deaths then 2 weeks later trying to sell all their sick collection of leos on classifieds.. ( and thats only ONE example theres plenty more over the years ive been here..) NO WONDER some of us get mad... I and others take time out to help only to have that to deal with..

that deserves blunt honest answers.. and if they cant handle it then they should take a look at their idiotic neglectful animal husbandry and give their own darn selves a kick up the arse.. this an ANIMAL forum.. not a lets-hug-people-no-matter-how-they-keep-their-animals forum

All that said I can often be calmed down by the offer of Cadburys caramel... that bunny has such a soothing voice...

[cooljules]

Originally Posted by sparkle

I agree at times people can fly off the handle for no reason but thats life.. some peole can be overly harsh when frankly theres simply no reason to.. I have seen that and we can ALL be guilty of it on OR off forum..

HOWEVER....

the problem with what you suggest is.. I dont have the same sensitivity as other people.. If you ask a stupid question such as...

My lizard hasnt ate for 3 weeks and wont drink water and its poo is green...

and I suggest ( or anyone suggests taking it to vet) the reply often is...

NO I cant afford it.. or no i dont like vets

... then a stupid reply deserves to be treated calmly at first but if the person insists on being a poor keeper asking ridiculous questions to avoid feeling they need to treat their animal correctly or take it to vet then frankly I dont care whether they BEGIN to see my nasty side...

Animal cruelty from negelect is apparant daily on this forum.. many of these threads the poster simply wants reassurance NOT to take the animal for vets cheks or to be told AWWWW dont worry your reptile is fine just give it a little cuddle.. Ive spent hours week after week sometimes helping just ONE forumite with multiple animals with mupltiple issues only to be lieds to.. said they have been chekced at vet when they havent ( and yes ive called vets at times to double check various things when something is approaching serious animal neglect and bordering on cruelty)... with serious problems such as suspected crypto or underfeeding towards extensive anorexia.... 2 deaths then 2 weeks later trying to sell all their sick collection of leos on classifieds.. ( and thats only ONE example theres plenty more over the years ive been here..) NO WONDER some of us get mad... I and others take time out to help only to have that to deal with..

that deserves blunt honest answers.. and if they cant handle it then they should take a look at their idiotic neglectful animal husbandry and give their own darn selves a kick up the arse.. this an ANIMAL forum.. not a lets-hug-people-no-matter-how-they-keep-their-animals forum

All that said I can often be calmed down by the offer of Cadburys caramel... that bunny has such a soothing voice...

Have you seen this thread?
http://www.reptileforums.co.uk/newbi...d-dragons.html

Im mr nasty on there.....but i dont care.

[angela__k__84]

Sparkle, I never tire of reading your posts. On most occasions I have no need to post because you have already said it all first.
There is nothing wrong with being blunt because this forum is not the place to diagnose your animals. It is not the place to seek treatment.
I also agree that nothing annoys me more than people asking really BASIC questions. If you can navigate your way to this forum then you can find Google. It is just laziness.
To all you blunt RFUKers keep it up.
There is no need to start an arguement for no reason - when someone is asking for a little advice but when an animal is at risk there is no point in sitting around and kissing each others butts.
I like the fact that the morons on this forum are called out - named and shamed - because personally I prefer to know this stuff. So I never buy or sell to them and put any other animals at risk.

[cooljules]

Originally Posted by angela__k__84

Sparkle, I never tire of reading your posts. On most occasions I have no need to post because you have already said it all first.
There is nothing wrong with being blunt because this forum is not the place to diagnose your animals. It is not the place to seek treatment.
I also agree that nothing annoys me more than people asking really BASIC questions. If you can navigate your way to this forum then you can find Google. It is just laziness.
To all you blunt RFUKers keep it up.
There is no need to start an arguement for no reason - when someone is asking for a little advice but when an animal is at risk there is no point in sitting around and kissing each others butts.
I like the fact that the morons on this forum are called out - named and shamed - because personally I prefer to know this stuff. So I never buy or sell to them and put any other animals at risk.

am i a moron?

[angela__k__84]

Not at all! Just read that dragons thread and I can't say I wouldn't have said the exact same thing.
I had a rescue beardie who unfortunately had to be PTS and the day he poohed blood - you own't find a post on this forum - cos I spent the whole day making arrangements to get him to a vet. Yeah I had to travel over an hour there and back, and I don't drive but it was the best thing to do. If only his original owner had considered it.
(I meant the morons that can't look after their animals!)

[Tina]

Originally Posted by LaurenJ

I come on hear pritty much everyday but its getting to the point where its annoying me coming on cz some of the people on here are soooo bitchy and just snap instead of giving help like whats its for

is it just me thinking this or has anyone else found this?

i keep finding people who have asked for advise and infomation just getting soo much stick

its suppost to be for people sharing things which they are interested in not who can score the most points in an argument

I think a lot of users read a post and think it's bitchy but probably don't have as much 'inside information' (for want of a better phrase) about the OP or the circumstances surrounding the question so someone reads it as bitchy when it actually isn't... it's just blunt and to the point because that poster has probably reached the end of their tether with the OP as they've tried to help them so many times either via pm, msn or whatever.

I don't mind giving out the same advice day after day after day even if the user could have done a search or in some cases just even scrolled down the page and found a thread asking the same thing - I think people just want personal answers to their question or through inexperience are missing the answer in what they've already read. I don't even mind having to answer the same question over and over for the same user because they still 'don't quite get it'... BUT my pet hate and one I will take issue with are users who 'bend the truth' to suit themselves after they've totally ignored the advice which would have prevented a problem they're now having. I've been accused by users of being 'nasty' in some posts when this happens but I'm afraid I reach the point where the 'awww, poor you', 'oh bless' and 'hugsssss' posts make me want to when I know the OP is just pulling the wool over other users eyes.

So basically sometimes what you read isn't the 'full story' and the ones who are construed as bitchy actually have more information and then get slated for it... if you think about it logically those users are actually the least bitchy really as they don't disclose all the information they have and don't get into the 'naming and shaming'.

I think I've waffled... but I know the point I'm trying to make... and I hope others will too.

[SleepyD]

Originally Posted by sparkle

All that said I can often be calmed down by the offer of Cadburys caramel... that bunny has such a soothing voice...

here you go


on a more serious note ~ I always try to answer questions politely but as others have already pointed out sometimes it's hard and yes I can be guilty of handing out the equivelant of an earbashing ~ heck I know we all started off somewhere and I don't profess to 'knowitall' by any means ~ but when it comes to animals and for example how some are cared for (or not as the case may be), cruelty, wilful neglect etc then I can't and won't do 'huggywuggy' ....

humans can choose their pets ~ unfortunately pets can't choose their owners