python eats cat alive.

[Meko]

Originally Posted by athy59

It begs the question why ws the snake doing out not supervised or in a safe enclosure to make sure the snake stayed safe and also children ect. It irresponbile rep owners like this, who make it bad for the responbile reptile owners.

sorry, but can you point out, where in the story it showed a picture of the garden... the unsafe one with the gate wide open.. that is of course if you can find it.
You've decided that the owner is irresponsible but you have no idea on whether it was safe. The snake was in the owers garden, if he left it alone for an amount of time then it's obvious to suggest that it was snake proof and the snake couldn't, and didn't, get out.
The cat went into the garden and got eaten, the same as if it went into a garden and got eaten by a dog / drowned in a fish pond or even climbed a tree, onto the garage roof, in through a window, along the landing and into a rep room before getting eaten by a snake who's been let out while the owner cleans it's viv.

a reptile owner isn't irresponsible for having their snake in the garden.

[athy59]

Originally Posted by Meko

sorry, but can you point out, where in the story it showed a picture of the garden... the unsafe one with the gate wide open.. that is of course if you can find it.
You've decided that the owner is irresponsible but you have no idea on whether it was safe. The snake was in the owers garden, if he left it alone for an amount of time then it's obvious to suggest that it was snake proof and the snake couldn't, and didn't, get out.
The cat went into the garden and got eaten, the same as if it went into a garden and got eaten by a dog / drowned in a fish pond or even climbed a tree, onto the garage roof, in through a window, along the landing and into a rep room before getting eaten by a snake who's been let out while the owner cleans it's viv.

a reptile owner isn't irresponsible for having their snake in the garden.

Did you not read the whole article. The snake was lying out in the garden. If it was in an enclosure, THE CAT WOULD HAVE NOT BEEN KILLED.
The R.S.P.C.A. have given the owner a verbal warning re keeping it in apporiate housing ect. The Owner was not available for comment to the Evening post, That alone speaks volumes about what he had done.
@ mo my b/dragons are out in my garden, But they are in a safe enclosure, a Flexi, where they will be safe and not come to harm from anything. i know there are pictures in the acutal newspaper from shop, but i dont buy them, so saw it online. It dont matter whether gate was open,shut ect. The snake of that calibre should have not been out in the garden without it being in a safe enclosure for its own safety as well as kids who may have seen it.

[Barry.M]

Originally Posted by Meko

sorry, but can you point out, where in the story it showed a picture of the garden... the unsafe one with the gate wide open.. that is of course if you can find it.
You've decided that the owner is irresponsible but you have no idea on whether it was safe. The snake was in the owers garden, if he left it alone for an amount of time then it's obvious to suggest that it was snake proof and the snake couldn't, and didn't, get out.
The cat went into the garden and got eaten, the same as if it went into a garden and got eaten by a dog / drowned in a fish pond or even climbed a tree, onto the garage roof, in through a window, along the landing and into a rep room before getting eaten by a snake who's been let out while the owner cleans it's viv.

a reptile owner isn't irresponsible for having their snake in the garden.

It's irresponsible to leave it unattended to go and have a shave though.

[kaimarion]

Here is a quote from the owner of the snake:

"Louise, "you have to be more responsible". What you're really saying is I need to be responsible for other people's animals. My responsibility was to make sure she did not leave my garden and attack anyone, please show me where I failed in my responsibility!! I knew where she would be when I came back, she wasn't left for long and she was not roaming.
I do understand their feelings which is why I co-operated with them until I found out they had tried to involve the police. And yes, I would be devastated if Squash was killed in someone else's back garden. However, I would accept that it was my fault for allowing her to be there and there is no way I would try to prosecute someone because of my negligence. If they really want justice, the first place to find it is in their own actions and behaviour.
I don't know what the 2-3 yr olds on your planet are like, but on Earth, they struggle to kick a ball more than a few feet, and as there are no children 5 gardens to the right and 2 gardens to the left, and they are nowhere near 2-3yrs old, your hypothesis doesn't work. Probably the reason why in 8yrs I have only found one ball in my garden, and that was because the kids who lost it wrote me a little note asking me to look for it.
Your assumption that a 2-3yr old would be able to get into my garden is just that, an assumption, and has no connection with reallity. I would also be concerned about a parent that would leave a toddler unsupervised for long enough that the child could scale and leave their own garden.
The reason people like you keep trying to involve kids in this story is to try to make it more serious than it actually is.
The story that has formed the basis of the Evening Posts front page is this;
cat goes into a garden, attacks a python, and is eaten.
That's it..
I didn't say it is like Sarah's Law, I said it seems to me, and 2 friends I have spoken to on the phone, that wording used was deliberately selected from that campaign. However, if no else thinks that then I completely retract that statement. But I still have the right to say what I beleived to be true at the time. "
darren, bristol

[Meko]

Originally Posted by athy59

Did you not read the whole article. The snake was lying out in the garden. If it was in an enclosure, THE CAT WOULD HAVE NOT BEEN KILLED.
The R.S.P.C.A. have given the owner a verbal warning re keeping it in apporiate housing ect. The Owner was not available for comment to the Evening post, That alone speaks volumes about what he had done.
@ mo my b/dragons are out in my garden, But they are in a safe enclosure, a Flexi, where they will be safe and not come to harm from anything. i know there are pictures in the acutal newspaper from shop, but i dont buy them, so saw it online. It dont matter whether gate was open,shut ect. The snake of that calibre should have not been out in the garden without it being in a safe enclosure for its own safety as well as kids who may have seen it.

Originally Posted by Barry.M

It's irresponsible to leave it unattended to go and have a shave though.

it's 'unattended' in a viv, and if the garden is secure and the snake can't get out then i can't see a problem.
If a cat comes into my garden the dogs will have it, there's no difference. It's the owners private property and as long as it's secure then he's not to blame.

[C4VEMAN-5AM]

Originally Posted by Meko

it's 'unattended' in a viv, and if the garden is secure and the snake can't get out then i can't see a problem.
If a cat comes into my garden the dogs will have it, there's no difference. It's the owners private property and as long as it's secure then he's not to blame.

I agree with most of that, its peoples private property, If a cat comes onto our property and our pets kill it, then tough its their fault.

However I dont get what you meen by secure? A snake could easily climb a garden fence, and get out, and if it was in a viv, it obviousley wasnt locked.

[Meko]

depends on the fence, is a snake going to try and climb a 6ft garden fence? if you put a big snake in a 6ft high viv then you'll normally have branches and shelves in there, not just a 6ft high viv with a bowl of water and a hide on the floor.

[wolfson]

hey there,

Found your article when reading today. As a new snake owner it makes me kinda mad because i also have a cat, and as has already been said that guy was damn irresponsible, and makes the rest of us look like bad people, that makes me annoyed, but it also makes me annoyed the way the cat owners went on about their cat.

Fact is if a cat launched itself at a human the right way and velocity it could kill a person, this is just typical small mindedness from ignorant people who just see anything exotic as outside the party line way of living, outside of what's normal, its exotic or any animals that pay the price for man's ignorance, you can see a mile away that the cat owner would prefer if we were all banned from keeping snakes at all.

just my input

[athy59]

Originally Posted by wolfson

hey there,

Found your article when reading today. As a new snake owner it makes me kinda mad because i also have a cat, and as has already been said that guy was damn irresponsible, and makes the rest of us look like bad people, that makes me annoyed, but it also makes me annoyed the way the cat owners went on about their cat.

Fact is if a cat launched itself at a human the right way and velocity it could kill a person, this is just typical small mindedness from ignorant people who just see anything exotic as outside the party line way of living, outside of what's normal, its exotic or any animals that pay the price for man's ignorance, you can see a mile away that the cat owner would prefer if we were all banned from keeping snakes at all.

just my input

I used to have snakes, albeit they were garter snakes. This was the point of me posting this, I have 3 cats, they wont touch my reps at all, not even my parrot and lovebird.
What people tend to forget is, Who was on this earth 1st? Animals and insects were long before humans. Cats, dogs, ect all hunt, its in their nature, no matter how much we domesticate Animals, they will always remain wild underneath, even th most placid of Snakes. Because of this idiots behaviour and 1 other, a Councilor as now called YET AGAIN to get the Government to stop, the RESPONIBLE Reptile owners to either have a licence or stop it altogether. I signed the recent petition earlier this year to stop the government banning reps, now cos of this twonker,its going to start up again.
Cats have every right to roam where they like, but my feelings are, they must have collars on with bells on, to stop harming the wild birds. (My Cats are all indoor cats anyway.) After all we dont moan, if we see foxes or their poop in our gardens, and i got 1 male fox who does tend to poop in my garden, do i moan NO, its nature.
I think you find lot of people who slate reptile owners no nothing about them, so lot of it, is fear and ignorance on their part.
It just take 1 Bad apple in the barrel to spoil it for the rest of the Good apples.

[Vikki123]

Sorry to say this - I do like cats to some degree, but the cat went into HIS garden! I agree that the snake shouldn't have been unsupervised incase it escaped. My kids guinea pigs were killed by someone's cat, so to read about this made me giggle!