New shop in Cardiff

[madaboutreptiles]

Silversurfer I guess by the way you are ripping reptilecymru to pieces on this thread you must after a job in this new reptile shop?

I have never been there but all I hear is good things about Athravens reptiles

Just an observation?

[sebright]

Simon, Can you confirm the opening date, cus I'l be there!

Tariq.

[rach]

Originally Posted by Palmanda

Silversurfer I guess by the way you are ripping reptilecymru to pieces on this thread you must after a job in this new reptile shop?

I have never been there but all I hear is good things about Athravens reptiles

Just an observation?

its either that or he is the owner trying to plug himself.
Telling me not to comment? Why not, my boyfriend is into reptiles and sure as hell wouldnt lie about a shop to me. Not going to go into the stuff he said about that shop, but its enough to put me off ever going in there!
Call me a retard? Fine, to be honest you arent worth a second of my time, only reason im here is to defend a really really great shop owner who has been nothing but help since I started talking to her.

Wow, and if what you have done isnt badmouthing in your book then someone really didnt raise you very well.

And isnt it funny how you have only posted on this one thread...? Pretty suspicious really.

Calling you an idiot I still stand by, seeing as you ignored everything athravan has said to you I can pretty much sum up that you are a stubborn little closed minded idiot who enjoys ripping into people. How mature of you.

[Nat]

silversurfer...if u cant reply to a pm from athravan then I guess u r just here to publicly try n cause trouble!! If U cant say anythin nice other than bad mouth athravan and her shop and called rach a retard then crawl back in2 ur hole n get a life!!

Oh...for the record....ur the retard!.....a cpl of posts on the forum n u think ur gods gift? sheesh...how old r u? 10?

[welshgaz]

Well well well... It seams everyone like critising shops yet when its there shop they kick up a stink ! All apart from Athraven.

I can categorily state that Reptile Cymru is one of the best reptile shops I've had the pleasure to step into. The vivs are all clean, the animals are all well cared for and fed well. None of this under feeding milarky that shops do to keep the animals small and cute for example.

You won't find 2 burms for example inside a single cage, in fact your not likely to find burms there at all unless specifically ordered in for someone. To many people see them as cute and small and don't really appreciate there size after a year !

All animals sold will come with a caresheet and the knowledge of how best to keep the reptile. Plenty of shops I've walked into will allow you to walk out with animals without asking you a single question... for example do you have a setup and hows it maintained.

Athraven will state to any customer that the reptile they are purchasing will be wild caught, or captive breed. She will not lie like some shops and state its CB when really its WC. Everything that is sold will be feeding and will have been checked they do not have parasites or mites for example. I know Athraven isn't a fan of WC but the realities of running a shop means some species sold will be WC, but at least the cutomer knows !

How can I make all these judgement you may say ? Well I've been in the shop numerous times and every single time I've been there its clean. No crap in water bowls like pretty much every other shops I've been in has. Baby dragons will be on paper towel and not sand... I've also done Athraven a few favours and looked after the shop twice ! So its not like I don't know how things are run.

[rach]

Originally Posted by welshgaz

Well well well... It seams everyone like critising shops yet when its there shop they kick up a stink ! All apart from Athraven.

Just wanna say there that its not my shop, i just have the pleasure of visiting occasionally and owning some of her stock :P my local is scales n tails in porthcawl I just defend athravan as she doesnt deserve all the stick she is getting from that idiot!!
And obviously you know she doesnt deserve it either Cant deny it, she has the best aftercare as well, has helped us out off her own back for free when she didnt have to!
Cant fault her really!

[sparkle]

What a thouroughly nasty thread,,,

it seems more and more people are trying to nick business from more established shops and reptile businesses this way..

( eg ditta rep taxi thread and this one)

It only makes the person doing it look pathetic...

i think if something is wild caught being honest and careful ( parasite control and quarentine) is the right thing to do. Inform your customers and genuinely care for the animals.. Now i have never been to Athravens shop but I have only heard of good things about it...

stop trying to use negative publicity about others to boost your sales.. it just shows your desperate and underhanded.. not a good look really!!

[welshgaz]

hmmm has sparkle hit the nail on the head ?

tbh I don't think bad mouthing Athraven on this board is going to do much damage at all... Shes been around long enough now and meet enough people that people trust her. Spending time building a reputation is obviously worth doing instead of trying to ruin one !

[sami]

Originally Posted by welshgaz

hmmm has sparkle hit the nail on the head ?

tbh I don't think bad mouthing Athraven on this board is going to do much damage at all... Shes been around long enough now and meet enough people that people trust her. Spending time building a reputation is obviously worth doing instead of trying to ruin one !

Shut up retard!

You don't know what the fu..


Sorry I thought we were all still calling each other names and I got carried away



Mason

[Kellybee]

Originally Posted by silversurfer

I haven't bad mouthed any one, all I have said was that athravan use to curse all the shops and was 100% anti wild caught saying they should be left alone in the wild and that they bring in parasites with them and infest other cb reps. Now that she got a shop her self it's all fine and OK to sell wild caught reps. a bit two faced for me.

so next time find out the facts before you jump to the conclosion! retard

Dude who's the retard?

Athravan has a strong beleif in the CB market, she has done her research and has developed a new opinion. Nothing retarded or two faced about that. Seems like an open minded, reasonable person to me !!

I never used to beleive that the RSPCA intend to make it difficult for people to keep caged animals, but having numerous conversations and doing a bit of research (cheers ratboy), I have changed my mind. Thats not two faced, or retarded, thats using the facts to reassess a situation and draw a new conclusion based on the evidence at hand.

Athravan is a great girl, she has good morals, and runs a beautiful shop. So what if you dont want beardies and leos and corns. You forget about the larger percentage of owners that actually DO like these animals. Shops keep these species because the hobby is growing, and these, despite being the animals recommended for novices are animals tht are kept even by keepers with GTP's, larger monitors, DWA listed species and rare/expensive/difficult to keep reptiles.

For those of us that keep not so common animals, we have a central place where we can find out who has got what. Its called the forum. So when someone arrives fresh off the attitude boat thinking that people care about their opinion, or that people will refrain from liking a particular shop based on the fact that the stock is not too big for the average living room, too dangerous to be managed by a newbie or too rare to have care resources available, then just remember its horses for courses. If you dont like the shop, go tell somoene that actually gives a hoot.