Thoughts??????

[becky89]

Originally Posted by Cold blooded but prime

I do see both sides of this and completly agree with you, if someone said to me my iguana shows emotion I would probaly think hmmmm really? but I find that my female ig does not act on instinct and is such a character from my other igs that only see me as food and something moving in the room, but as you say this mite just be me with wishfull thinking

It's only too natural to want pets to have emotions too But think of it this way, at least your iggy isn't trying to rip your face off lol, so something's going right

[ian14]

One of the best ways to consider whether or not a species is "domesticated" is whether it has been bred to provide a service or purpose useful to man. Cats are not domesticated - they are quite capable of surviving by themselves without us to care for them, and even when adequately fed will still go off and actively hunt birds, small mammals, reptiles etc, because they are still displaying wild behaviour. They serve no purpose other than as a companion animal.
Dogs, on the other hand, have been selectively bred over hundreds of years for specific purposes, such as herding (sheepdogs), hunting (various terriers etc) and protection of livestock (the original purpose of many of the larger breeds which were bred to help the shephard or farmer to protect their stock from wolves, bears, and other predators).
Cattle, sheep, pigs etc have all been selectively bred to produce leaner meat, larger milk yields etc.
Given that reptiles are not used for a purpose useful to man, they are not domesticated and cannot be seen as being domesticated in the future.
I know that some species, ie venomous species, are used to obtain venom for various mediacl purposes but they have not been selectively bred to produce larger quantities so are not domesticated, and with the specied which are eaten, again, they have not been selectively bred for leaner meat, or to be bigger to gain more meat from the animal, so again are not domesticated.
Selective breeding to produce new morphs does not equate to domestication.

[Cold blooded but prime]

Originally Posted by becky89

It's only too natural to want pets to have emotions too But think of it this way, at least your iggy isn't trying to rip your face off lol, so something's going right

[Cold blooded but prime]

yea thats a good way to look at it.

Originally Posted by ian14

One of the best ways to consider whether or not a species is "domesticated" is whether it has been bred to provide a service or purpose useful to man. Cats are not domesticated - they are quite capable of surviving by themselves without us to care for them, and even when adequately fed will still go off and actively hunt birds, small mammals, reptiles etc, because they are still displaying wild behaviour. They serve no purpose other than as a companion animal.
Dogs, on the other hand, have been selectively bred over hundreds of years for specific purposes, such as herding (sheepdogs), hunting (various terriers etc) and protection of livestock (the original purpose of many of the larger breeds which were bred to help the shephard or farmer to protect their stock from wolves, bears, and other predators).
Cattle, sheep, pigs etc have all been selectively bred to produce leaner meat, larger milk yields etc.
Given that reptiles are not used for a purpose useful to man, they are not domesticated and cannot be seen as being domesticated in the future.
I know that some species, ie venomous species, are used to obtain venom for various mediacl purposes but they have not been selectively bred to produce larger quantities so are not domesticated, and with the specied which are eaten, again, they have not been selectively bred for leaner meat, or to be bigger to gain more meat from the animal, so again are not domesticated.
Selective breeding to produce new morphs does not equate to domestication.

[essexchondro]

One of the best ways to consider whether or not a species is "domesticated" is whether it has been bred to provide a service or purpose useful to man. Cats are not domesticated - they are quite capable of surviving by themselves without us to care for them, and even when adequately fed will still go off and actively hunt birds, small mammals, reptiles etc, because they are still displaying wild behaviour. They serve no purpose other than as a companion animal.
Dogs, on the other hand, have been selectively bred over hundreds of years for specific purposes, such as herding (sheepdogs), hunting (various terriers etc) and protection of livestock (the original purpose of many of the larger breeds which were bred to help the shephard or farmer to protect their stock from wolves, bears, and other predators).
Cattle, sheep, pigs etc have all been selectively bred to produce leaner meat, larger milk yields etc.
Given that reptiles are not used for a purpose useful to man, they are not domesticated and cannot be seen as being domesticated in the future.
I know that some species, ie venomous species, are used to obtain venom for various mediacl purposes but they have not been selectively bred to produce larger quantities so are not domesticated, and with the specied which are eaten, again, they have not been selectively bred for leaner meat, or to be bigger to gain more meat from the animal, so again are not domesticated.
Selective breeding to produce new morphs does not equate to domestication.

But surely morphs have been selectively bred to "provide a service or purpose useful to man". Granted, that service/purpose isn't a practical/working one as with the case of herding or hunting dogs, but they do fulfil an "aesthetic need" (some might say a "fashion need") in much the same way that many of the "Toy Dog" breeds do, for example.

This is what one dog breed website says about toy dogs;

Dogs in the Toy Group were initially developed to ease the lifestyle and provide pleasure to rich people. These dogs were initially owned by the wealthy and were viewed by others as status symbols - a luxury item with little apparent purpose.

That could have pretty much been written about snake morphs!!!