can anyone bring back reps from hamm

[stephenie191]

Originally Posted by Diablo

Yep if your interested in any of them then let me know

got a link for the ones for sale? thanks

[intravenous]

...I thought there were different rules for bringing reptiles into the country if you get paid for it?

[purejurrasic]

There is !

on the coach, if the only payment made is a small collection fee, and the animals are contained within thier normal poly boxes, then its not a problem.

However, collecting animals for resale is not permitted without our knowledge and permissioin, due to 1) unfair use of the storage area and 2) insurance and import regulations.

All animals will have to be declared on a transit form so we are aware of whats on board in the event of accident, incident or customs enquiries.

[Dexter]

I'm not far from you mate. I think some 20 minutes drive or so.

What are you after ?

[Dexter]

By the way, I'd not even charge anything, and of course I'd not bring anything stupid, only if it's something like one or twoc snakes that can be easily transported in the box I'll be taking anyway.

But after all the contacts I made so far, I doubt I'll be buying much (if anything) there. Unless the breeders are a bunch of liars, I can get hold of the boas I want cheaper here than over there (specially albinos, hoggs, hypos, etc).

I'll still go to experience a big show, and walk about.

[tarantulabarn]

Originally Posted by Dexter

By the way, I'd not even charge anything, and of course I'd not bring anything stupid, only if it's something like one or twoc snakes that can be easily transported in the box I'll be taking anyway.

But after all the contacts I made so far, I doubt I'll be buying much (if anything) there. Unless the breeders are a bunch of liars, I can get hold of the boas I want cheaper here than over there (specially albinos, hoggs, hypos, etc).

I'll still go to experience a big show, and walk about.

Not many breeders will give you show price until the day, no point until they see how busy it is

[Dexter]

Originally Posted by tarantulabarn

Not many breeders will give you show price until the day, no point until they see how busy it is

Yeah, that's what I'm trying to believe, although they are all saying that they won't bring the prices down, etc.

I was trying to bargain to get some snakes I really loved, bu the breeder is asking too much, and that's part of his reply to me a few moments ago:

' I want to just make myself clear and as much direct as possible: don't know with whom you may had experience with before, but that's sure not my case of levering on high prices and then sell cheaper during shows as to get the possible out of it.
And on a side note, I do have the maximun respect for any real breeder who sell his stock at the price he might decide to,even if that means cheaper than mine, but NOT for people like (I cut the name of the breeder off) and the likes who are really destroing this market (your's and mine!) and acting without trace of respect ... '

I got similar replies from german, italian and dutch breeders, so they are all a bunch of liars and they will sell for half of what they told me (which I doubt), or I'm likely to come back home empty handed.

But as I said, I'm happy to give it a go, at the end of the day I'll only be able to judge it if I go there and see it myself.

[madaboutreptiles]

Originally Posted by Dexter

Yeah, that's what I'm trying to believe, although they are all saying that they won't bring the prices down, etc.

I was trying to bargain to get some snakes I really loved, bu the breeder is asking too much, and that's part of his reply to me a few moments ago:

' I want to just make myself clear and as much direct as possible: don't know with whom you may had experience with before, but that's sure not my case of levering on high prices and then sell cheaper during shows as to get the possible out of it.
And on a side note, I do have the maximun respect for any real breeder who sell his stock at the price he might decide to,even if that means cheaper than mine, but NOT for people like (I cut the name of the breeder off) and the likes who are really destroing this market (your's and mine!) and acting without trace of respect ... '

I got similar replies from german, italian and dutch breeders, so they are all a bunch of liars and they will sell for half of what they told me (which I doubt), or I'm likely to come back home empty handed.

But as I said, I'm happy to give it a go, at the end of the day I'll only be able to judge it if I go there and see it myself.

The trouble is the europeon breeders know the prices here are fairly high compared to europe.

I am just going to look on the day and if they are expensive come home empty handed.....it will be a good day out anyway and chance to meet some peeps of here......

[Dexter]

The other thing is, maybe boas are more sought after now than other snakes and lizards.

Maybe you can go there and get loads of bargains when it comes to lizards, royal pythons, corns, etc. But there are certain types of boas that seem to be too much sought after, and european breeders have realised that there aren't many people offering them, so they can up the price.

The prices certain breeders ask for a simple very common hogg island boa is really amazing. You almost feel like taking some over and trading there, if they are so happy to pay morph prices for hoggs.

[Athravan]

Last show I went to was Houten in Oct and 07 hogg islands were £120 compared to £200-250 here at the time.

Not sure what prices you are being quoted from, perhaps you have particularly cheap suppliers in the UK.. or perhaps you are asking expensive people? After all, there are many hundreds of traders there and very few actually put up lists, advertise prices or are even contactable. The big breeders may charge high prices but the smaller ones will be competitive on the day. You may find that smaller breeders will walk around before the show opens and eye up the competition and prices, and availability ,and then price accordingly. I am sure they will have a "target price" for their animals, but if they find they are the only table selling xxx at the show, they will aim for a good target price, if they find there are 100 other xxx's available cheaper than them, they will drop their target.. if you get what I mean. I have never had a competitive price asked in advance.