Boa Genetics and 'Outcomes' - Albino, Anery & Hypo - Hets, Visuals and Supers

[Jake89]

Originally Posted by mikerichards

I know he is a common boa, i meant colour wise, i havent seen another one with that much yellow in, he is practically gold in places.

Yes thats what im saying he isnt a morph he is just a nice common boa!!

[Jake89]

Originally Posted by bEnNy THE BeArDeD

i think he has normal pastels.

In other words they are just clean normals as there is no such thing as normal Pastels, there are only 3 true lines of Pastel and they are Kusbch pastel, DM line Pastel, and EBV Red Line Pastel. Anything any one else lables as a pastel is just a clean normal/common.

[bladeblaster]

Originally Posted by Jake89

In other words they are just clean normals as there is no such thing as normal Pastels, there are only 3 true lines of Pastel and they are Kusbch pastel, DM line Pastel, and EBV Red Line Pastel. Anything any one else lables as a pastel is just a clean normal/common.

so you wouldn't call these pastels then?

Boa Constrictors by The Boaphile - 19 High Pink Pastel Boas

New pastel lines could be developed at anytime, so there are not only 3 in the world, its a selectively line bred trait so almost anyone could develop a line.

[mikerichards]

Cool no probs, thanks.

[Jake89]

Originally Posted by bladeblaster

so you wouldn't call these pastels then?

Boa Constrictors by The Boaphile - 19 High Pink Pastel Boas

New pastel lines could be developed at anytime, so there are not only 3 in the world, its a selectively line bred trait so almost anyone could develop a line.

Sorry i was un-aware of this one and it turns out it is a new one so i can be forgiven for that, so there are 4 lines of pastel including the Columbian Pink Pastel.
Yes i am not arguing with you new ones can be developed or proved out over time yes but as it stands there are 4 true proven lines of pastel, and it just rattles my cage a little the people who just have nice clean commons.

[bladeblaster]

Originally Posted by Jake89

Sorry i was un-aware of this one and it turns out it is a new one so i can be forgiven for that, so there are 4 lines of pastel including the Columbian Pink Pastel.
Yes i am not arguing with you new ones can be developed or proved out over time yes but as it stands there are 4 true proven lines of pastel, and it just rattles my cage a little the people who just have nice clean commons.

I wouldn't disagree with that as such, but that is how all pastel lines would have started out, an unknown very clean pretty 'normal' which has then gone on to be genetically proven out, and specifcally bred to enchance the traits.

However it does also work the other way, some of the boas I have seen labeled as pastel just because one of the parents was pastel are nothing of the sort. The traits aren't always passed on to every offspring, as far as I understand it is perfectly possible to produce 'normal' offspring from a pastel breeding, only a proportion will have enherited all of the traits.

[Jake89]

Originally Posted by bladeblaster

I wouldn't disagree with that as such, but that is how all pastel lines would have started out, an unknown very clean pretty 'normal' which has then gone on to be genetically proven out, and specifcally bred to enchance the traits.

However it does also work the other way, some of the boas I have seen labeled as pastel just because one of the parents was pastel are nothing of the sort. The traits aren't always passed on to every offspring, as far as I understand it is perfectly possible to produce 'normal' offspring from a pastel breeding, only a proportion will have enherited all of the traits.

Yea i think that is right mate

But part of what i mean people are seling these 'normal' pastels too people and people are thinking they have pastels when really they dont.
I have 4 pastels and all of them are true proven lines, i have:
EBV Red Line Pastel Poss Jungle
EBV Red Line Pastel Hypo Jungle
Kusbch Pastel
DM line Pastel.

I personally wouldnt buy any 'normal' pastel boa off the forum and would stick too the proven lines available. But that is my personal preference. I am happy you pointed out that Columbian Pink Line Pastel i may have to invest in one. All the pastel lines are compatible so im wondering what one of those Columbian Pinks to one of my EBV Red Line would look like

[bladeblaster]

Originally Posted by Jake89

Yea i think that is right mate

But part of what i mean people are seling these 'normal' pastels too people and people are thinking they have pastels when really they dont.
I have 4 pastels and all of them are true proven lines, i have:
EBV Red Line Pastel Poss Jungle
EBV Red Line Pastel Hypo Jungle
Kusbch Pastel
DM line Pastel.

I personally wouldnt buy any 'normal' pastel boa off the forum and would stick too the proven lines available. But that is my personal preference. I am happy you pointed out that Columbian Pink Line Pastel i may have to invest in one. All the pastel lines are compatible so im wondering what one of those Columbian Pinks to one of my EBV Red Line would look like

Stunning I would think

[rock-steady]

Selective Bred has some nice pastels but not sure on the line. As said tho without breeding a couple of generations it would be hard to prove a nice normal from a true pastel. Is the marron not a pastel? I have a female a little like your male but with a bit more colour in her sides.





Sorry for the naf pics. I am not holding my breath but it is hard not to dream of her being a true pastel. Good luck if you do breed him I have my fingers crossed for you

[Jake89]

Originally Posted by rock-steady

Selective Bred has some nice pastels but not sure on the line. As said tho without breeding a couple of generations it would be hard to prove a nice normal from a true pastel. Is the marron not a pastel? I have a female a little like your male but with a bit more colour in her sides.

Sorry for the naf pics. I am not holding my breath but it is hard not to dream of her being a true pastel. Good luck if you do breed him I have my fingers crossed for you

Like my adult male?? He is a DM Line Pastel.
Yea i know it would take years to prove it out thats why i dont buy them and only buy the true lines like kusbch, DM & EBV.
Marron is a difficult one, they think its something alittle bit more than a pastel, peope are still in the learning stages of it, i know it came from 2pastels being bred together though!