SS Tremper Albino Eye Colour...

[marcgroovyge]

Originally Posted by Mal

Just to throw a spanner in the works. I just looked in the incubator where all my previous albino SS hatchlings with apparently black eyes had hatched. Guess what.......another albino SS hatchling this time with red eyes. The temperature settings are unchanged.

Thats really cool!

[messengermatt]

Originally Posted by Mal

Just to throw a spanner in the works. I just looked in the incubator where all my previous albino SS hatchlings with apparently black eyes had hatched. Guess what.......another albino SS hatchling this time with red eyes. The temperature settings are unchanged.

Very nice so this means that the temps make no difference?

[SleepyD]

Originally Posted by Mal

Just to throw a spanner in the works. I just looked in the incubator where all my previous albino SS hatchlings with apparently black eyes had hatched. Guess what.......another albino SS hatchling this time with red eyes. The temperature settings are unchanged.

hey nice one Mal

[forgottenEntity]

Originally Posted by SleepyD

hey nice one Mal

That backs up what you've seen doesn't it?

[gazz]

Originally Posted by Mal

Just to throw a spanner in the works. I just looked in the incubator where all my previous albino SS hatchlings with apparently black eyes had hatched. Guess what.......another albino SS hatchling this time with red eyes. The temperature settings are unchanged.

What temperature was they set ?.According to Ron tremper incubate at 80f for female all will be dark and female.Incubate at 90f for male all willl be light and male.So i can only conclude anywhere in between 80f & 90f you'll get a mix of dark and light.Male and female and both sex's being a mix of dark and light.

[MrMike]

Woah, this thread has moved on in a few hours.

As has been said, lets not make this into a chest beating thread. Lots of excellent information in here, it has definately made me think differently about a few things.

If the albinism exhibited in Tremepr, Bell and RW strains only limits the melanin production, and not stops it completely, then that would explain what people are seeing. Is this right?

[Sarah-Jayne]

Originally Posted by MrMike

Woah, this thread has moved on in a few hours.

As has been said, lets not make this into a chest beating thread. Lots of excellent information in here, it has definately made me think differently about a few things.

If the albinism exhibited in Tremepr, Bell and RW strains only limits the melanin production, and not stops it completely, then that would explain what people are seeing. Is this right?

Not really, if its reduced it still wont be black lol only very dark brown or very dark red

I assume that albino leopard geckos are not really albino? if this is the case then people really shouldn't be selling them as something they are not

[messengermatt]

So to conclude albinos do not exist which means from now on my leos will be sold as

Bell Leopard Geckos, Tremper Leopard Geckos and Rainwaters.

[SleepyD]

Originally Posted by Sarah-Jayne

I assume that albino leopard geckos are not really albino? if this is the case then people really shouldn't be selling them as something they are not

given how the genes, pigment cells etc work then albino leo's are albino and can be called albino too ..... albinoism isn't just a total lack of melanin; it also has varying degrees and has even been known in some cases to affect the skin etc in patches as opposed to onblock where other body patches aren't affected as much ~ there's a list of particulars around which I'll dig out later ~ also is worth bearing in mind that a 'red eyes' is not a garenteed affect of albinoism as quite often blue eyes occur

[gazz]

Originally Posted by messengermatt

So to conclude albinos do not exist which means from now on my leos will be sold as

Bell Leopard Geckos, Tremper Leopard Geckos and Rainwaters.

All three leo strains are T+ Abinos(Tyrosinase Positive albino) it exhibit an inability to complete the synthesis of melanin.Colour with reduced/absence of black pigment.Is replaced with shades of brown.but can produce other melanin related pigments such as various shades of brown grey & red.

This differs from T- Albinos(Tyrosinase negitive albino) so in the areas that would normally be black or brown it will be typically white.And red orange will apear inhanced.

Examples

A Caramel royal python is a T+ albino.


A albino in truth sud be Amel royal python is a T- albino.



Then there is the ALBINO the whole White/pink red eyed deal.Picture below is not one but it's the closest i coould find.A true albino would look like the blow with full pink/red eyes and will be a breed true simple recssive trait not a combo morph.


T+ albino that's what all three strains of leo's are can not express black BUT can express brown in it's darkest form.