SS Tremper Albino Eye Colour...

[marcgroovyge]

abit like this diablo blanco?


Diablo Blanco

The Diablo Blanco is a combination morph created by Ron Tremper in 2006. The Diablo Blanco morph is a combination of the Blizzard trait and the RAPTORs. Essentially, a Diablo Blanco is a combination of 4 recessive traits, Blizzards, Tremper Albinos, Tremper Eclipse, and Patternless Stripe. The appearance of the Diablo Blancos is a white bodied Leopard Gecko with solid Red Eyes.

[Sarah-Jayne]

Originally Posted by messengermatt

Does that mean they could be T- ?

Nope because its a combination morph, T- would be a single recessive gene

[messengermatt]

Originally Posted by Sarah-Jayne

Nope because its a combination morph, T- would be a single recessive gene

So is it possible to create a T- ? i have heard that you can get pure white super snows

[gazz]

Originally Posted by messengermatt

So is it possible to create a T- ? i have heard that you can get pure white super snows

The only reason you get a T+ albino that's pure white in the super snow blizzard.Is coz the blizzard gene take the pattern with a degree of color.Then the Super snow gene take all the color.There there nothing other than in the eye for the T+ albino to gell with.

Make sence ?.

[messengermatt]

Originally Posted by gazz

The only reason you get a T+ albino that's pure white in the super snow blizzard.Is coz the blizzard gene take the pattern with a degree of color.Then the Super snow gene take all the color.There there nothing other than in the eye for the T+ albino to gell with.

Make sence ?.

Yup makes sense

[mack-bell]

Originally Posted by marcgroovyge

Diablo Blanco is a combination of 4 recessive traits, Blizzards, Tremper Albinos, Tremper Eclipse, and Patternless Stripe. The appearance of the Diablo Blancos is a white bodied Leopard Gecko with solid Red Eyes.

I don´t think the Patternless stripe gen is fully involved in the Diablo Blanco.
Tremper wrote to a guy that DB*Raptor gives Banded Raptors so he personally told us the gen is not "Homozygous" in the DB.
Also I´m not sure if the Patty stripe gen is simple rezessive as I never saw this gen act like a simple rezessive gen in all my breeding time and numberous Raptor babies.

Ahh and my MSST babies also always have very dark eyes instead of the MSSB babies they have glowing ruby reds

[Mal]

Originally Posted by mack-bell

Ahh and my MSST babies also always have very dark eyes instead of the MSSB babies they have glowing ruby reds

Can I just clarify what your saying in your post please. MSST..are you saying Mack Super Snow Tremper babies with MSSB relating to Bell ? If so Im glad another albino (T) SS breeder has similar results.

[mack-bell]

Ohh yeah, I´m lazy so I write only in short^^
MSS for Mack SUper Snow and T for Tremper while B stand for Bell.
As I never had any Super SNow Blizzards its fine for me but I always forget about the fact, that their are BLizzard breeders outside *G*

As said what I found is that Super Trempers have very dark red eyes and Super Bells have glowing eyes.
I dunno about the Las Vegas version but I´ll ask a friend of mine.

[Big Red One]

good 'eavans - just checked this thread after a few days 'off' and it's like it's gone off on one !

All very good 'food for thought' and has had me thinking.... One of the reasons for a forum this is, plenty of debate and ideas ! Good going guys....

I was of the opinion that absoloutely no black could show in an albino's eyes but there's some weird oddness occuring at the moment with eyes, so for now I'm sitting back and taking it all in !

[funky1]

Originally Posted by Big Red One

........ so for now I'm sitting back and taking it all in !

I`m with you on that one B.R.O (what an acronym btw - no way did you mean that! )
At the beginning of the thread, I had my own firmly held beliefs in place on the topic - and tbh I thought they were pretty much set in stone. After hearing so many impassioned, often plausable responses though, I think that there has got to be a lot more going on than a simple red eye/black eye definitive, certainly when it comes to whether an albino eye could ever, 100% without question be classed as black.
What has intrigued me the most about it, is at what point is it feasible to catergorically state an eye to be black? Is it when it looks black to the naked eye, when no red can be found even using the latest `photoshop`esque software, or when the level of red (if there even is any) is so low, that it can`t even be detected by a technologically advanced camera?

I also firmly believe that the ones who`ve taken away the most from this thread - and others like it - are the ones who`ve entered with an open mind, have been prepared to belly flop in a bucket of jelly for the sake of serenity (though as yet un-needed ) or basically, just been prepared to take on board other ppls opinions and experiences in the vain hope of a better understanding generally. Anyroad, that`s my 2 penneth........