SS Tremper Albino Eye Colour...

[messengermatt]

The whole albino basis is red eyes and no black pigmentation so if they are really 100% black then they cant be or are a possbile hybridisation.

[forgottenEntity]

Originally Posted by messengermatt

The whole albino basis is red eyes and no black pigmentation so if they are really 100% black then they cant be or are a possbile hybridisation.

You are basing your views of what a Supersnow Albino's eyes should do on what you see a RAPTORs eyes do. Yes, if a RAPTOR shows the solid eyed trait instead of snake eyes, it's eyes WILL be red. However, as I said in detail back on page 2 I think it was.... you will notice that not all RAPTORs have bright red eyes - some have darker red / ruby eyes. It is my belief that the albino trait is able to limit Tyrosinase enzyme production in true Eclipse gene carriers (RAPTOR for example) more readily than it can in Supersnows.

So, taking the idea from the RAPTOR of bright red through to ruby as possible colours let's take Supersnows instead where, in some cases, albino limits the pigmentation a lot... Meaning hardly any dark pigmentation and bright red eyes... in other cases it barely touches the production of it at all... to the point where you can not see any reduction in pigmentation - so, eyes are dark still... black in the cases where pigmentation isnt reduced as such.

Just a theory (about Tyrosinase production being more easily stopped in Eclipse carriers than Supersnows) but, it would fit with what you see.... Given lots of people out there have visibly solid black eyed Supersnow Albinos

[nuttybabez]

I know Ron charges a lot more for ruby eyed supersnow TAlbinos so they can't all be ruby eyed otherwise, why the difference in price? Or am I being naive?

If supersnows have solid black eyes, is it not possible that the supersnow gene overpowers the albino gene and you get black eyes?? I dunno, I don't understand all the technicalities, thats forgottenEntitys job! lol

[messengermatt]

I think we need to prove the theory in this case because obviously something isnt right, i guess the raptor theory makes sense though

[forgottenEntity]

Originally Posted by messengermatt

I think we need to prove the theory in this case because obviously something isnt right, i guess the raptor theory makes sense though

Kind of already have, because there are so many black eyed SS Albinos out there It would fit that Rainwater has very little if not zero ability at stopping eye pigment production in Supersnows, Tremper has a range of ability... varying from little or zero right the way up to near total... and Bell seems to near enough always stop at least a fair amount of pigment being produced (can't ever remember seeing a black eyed Supersnow Bell Albino).

[gazz]

The DARK looking black eyes are found in all the eye traits.It's dark mohogany.Look close not from a far.And brown are a color tone of T+ Albinos as well as red.

Talbino eclipse in a RAPTOR type.


Talbino eclipse in a Talbino eclipse blizzard-AKA-Diablo blanco.


False eclipse in a Talbino blizzard.


IMO in baby albinos the eye tend to be bright red when the eyes are more red.So if the eye are more brown and this was bright it reverses and would be darker making the eye look black.

Look really close you can see brown.Look closer you can even make out the pupil.

[Sarah-Jayne]

Now I am gonna throw a spanner in the works...I have a normal super snow that is NOT albino but he has dark brown/red eyes, not black

[forgottenEntity]

Originally Posted by Sarah-Jayne

Now I am gonna throw a spanner in the works...I have a normal super snow that is NOT albino but he has dark brown/red eyes, not black

Not as big a spanner as this throws into the works....



.... Kidding, before anyone takes it seriously... I do not own a leo with green eyes,

[nuttybabez]

Oh wow! Mango looks so cool like that!

Why is it Gazz that your example pics are never your own leos?

[Mal]

I own a JMG albino SS and she has jet black eyes. She was paired with a SS het albino this season and so far we have 6 albino hatchlings. Four of the hatchlings were incubated for female and have black eyes. Two were incubated for male and have ruby eyes. That would suggest that incubation temp has some influence on the colouring. I have spoken with another breeder and asked similar questions as to whats been asked here ie 'are all albino SS's eyes a ruby colour but in the majority of cases the ruby colouring is so deep it appears black?'.

I will try to get pics in a short while though to be honest, I have tried previously to get pics of the male ruby eyes and havent been able to get them to show in the pic. Possibly because they are so tiny but I will have another go. They are definatly ruby though.