SS Tremper Albino Eye Colour...

[Sarah-Jayne]

Originally Posted by forgottenEntity

Not as big a spanner as this throws into the works....



.... Kidding, before anyone takes it seriously... I do not own a leo with green eyes,

lol thats quite cool, I was being serious though!

[gazz]

Originally Posted by nuttybabez

Why is it Gazz that your example pics are never your own leos?

1/why p**s about trying to get good pictures of your own when there good example pictures already out there.2/Coz i don't have any leo's with eyes that dark.I've had my far share of leo's in the past and at presant i only have some leo's as i have a goal in mind.It hard to get leo's when your very fussy about what you have.And i want all my males to Express Talbino + eclipse + Snow.And my females to be 1 normal type + 1 enigma type.And looking grade-A of the examples.

so for example.

(M)Talbino eclipse Snow(Banded).
(FM)Normal(Banded) HET Talbino,Eclipse.
(FM)Enigma(Banded) HET Talbino,Eclipse.

(M)Talbino eclipse snow jungle.
(FM)Jungle HET Talbino,Eclipse.
(FM)Engma jungle HET Talbino,Eclipse.

(M)Talbino eclipse snow patternless reverse striped.
(FM)Patternless reverse striped HET Talbino,Eclipse.
(FM)Enigma patternless reverse striped HET Talbino,Eclipse.

(M)Talbino eclipse hypo snow.
(FM)Hypo HET Talbino,Eclipse.
(FM)Hypo enigma HET Talbino,Eclipse.

(M)Talbino eclipse snow blizzard.
(FM)Blizzard HET Talbino,Eclipse.
(FM)Blizzard enigma HET Talbino,Eclipse.

(M)Talbino eclipse super snow.
(FM)Super snow HET Talbino,Eclipse.
(FM)Super snow enigma HET Talbino,Eclipse.

etc,etc,etc.

As you can imagion not that easy to pull off.Plus doing this spots me buying leo's left,right and center i'm sure you and any other leo fan knows how esay that is to do.It's about now-ish/this year when some of these tyes of leo's will be availiable in the uk.

Would showing pictures of my own make me any more or any less knowledgeable ?.All you need to have a leo is money.You can still not have somthing and still know what your talking about.If that's where you going with you question.

[Mal]

Following on from my earlier post Ive just spent a bit of time in the rep room trying to get head shots of albino SS hatchlings. I can definately say that irrespective of eye colouration these hatchlings are very sensative to light. I have tried and tried to capture the ruby colouration of the male hatchlings eyes but it is not coming out clearly in the images. Im not sure if its the flash thats causing their eyes to appear darker than the ruby colour they actually are. Heres some of the shots. The only photo manipulation is to crop them to head shots.

First the JMG female albino SS.


Her markings suggest she may have been incubated at lower temps similar to choc albinos. This ties in with the thought that lower incubation temp may have some influence on the eye colourartion of albino SS.

Next, the first of the female hatchlings with what appear to be black eyes.

Female hatchling number 2 again with apparently black eyes



Next albino SS hatchlings incubated for male at higher temps. These little chap have definate ruby eyes though they do not show so clearly in the pic. If manified though you will see they are definate ruby.



There cant be any doubt that albino SuperSnows can have eyes that appear to be black. Could it be possible that the black eyes are actually a very deep ruby colour ? Could colouration possibly be linked to incubation temperature ? As someone has said previously, ruby eyed SS albinos fetch a higher price so there must be difference in the available colours. I also know some breeders are working towards improving or strengthening their albino SS strain to one that produces hatchlings wich all show ruby eyes. Basically they are trying to weed out the black eyed versions of the albino SS.

[Mal]

Just found this on another forum. It may be of interest.
A Question about Albino Super Snows - GeckoForums.net

[forgottenEntity]

Originally Posted by Mal

There cant be any doubt that albino SuperSnows can have eyes that appear to be black. Could it be possible that the black eyes are actually a very deep ruby colour ?

You're in agreement with me there from a couple of pages back on the thread

Could colouration possibly be linked to incubation temperature ? As someone has said previously, ruby eyed SS albinos fetch a higher price so there must be difference in the available colours. I also know some breeders are working towards improving or strengthening their albino SS strain to one that produces hatchlings wich all show ruby eyes. Basically they are trying to weed out the black eyed versions of the albino SS.

Possibly.... Thing is, would that also have a similar effect on "normal" or "albino" eyes, depending on incubation temp? To be honest, I've never really looked at a choc albino's eyes to see if they are slightly darker than a light albino's eyes. I will have a nosey at a couple here later and see if I can spot a difference.

[messengermatt]

Still need real proof that they are black, i saw a supposed black eyed leo again today and at very very close inspection they are such an extreme dark ruby color you could say they were black.

[messengermatt]

Originally Posted by Mal

Next, the first of the female hatchlings with what appear to be black eyes.

Female hatchling number 2 again with apparently black eyes



Next albino SS hatchlings incubated for male at higher temps. These little chap have definate ruby eyes though they do not show so clearly in the pic. If manified though you will see they are definate ruby.



There cant be any doubt that albino SuperSnows can have eyes that appear to be black. Could it be possible that the black eyes are actually a very deep ruby colour ? Could colouration possibly be linked to incubation temperature ? As someone has said previously, ruby eyed SS albinos fetch a higher price so there must be difference in the available colours. I also know some breeders are working towards improving or strengthening their albino SS strain to one that produces hatchlings wich all show ruby eyes. Basically they are trying to weed out the black eyed versions of the albino SS.

On closer inspection of these their eyes are all actually a very dark ruby color.

[nuttybabez]

And how are we supposed to provide real proof messengermatt? If you can let me know how, I will check mine.

Gazz, I guess some people like to show off their leos and get great pics of them and others just can't be bothered...makes me wonder what you do actually have in your collection and how many leos you have *actually* owned, rather than read and dreamed about. And no I was not saying this makes you any more knowledgeable, just less practically experienced thats all. You seem very dismissive of other peoples successes and experiences. Good luck on your A1 search. Them that look for perfection will realise this doesn't exist, but hey I am sure you are happy with your leos and I am happy with mine.

[messengermatt]

If you cannot provide proof then they arent black its quite simple.

If they are there will be a way to prove this, get an optician to inspect the eye as im sure they can tell you their real color.

[GeckoMorphs]

This thread is very interesting... I've been having a look at ours and at first glance they look black.

The male, who is lighter generally, def has red eyes in the right light

The females eys look very black and she is a darker colour too (incubation temps at play I'm sure), but even with her you can see a tinge of red in the right light.

My thoughts; they are all red eyes, but different degrees of darkness, some so much so that they appear black.