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Old 10-10-2009, 09:21 PM
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Question morphs are confusing me!!!!

hello guys !

please can someone help me, i'm the proud owner of a 6 week old leopard gecko that i purchased from a breeder, it is my first leo and i have just started getting into morphs and traits and genes etc.

and i am so coufused.

i understand how the punnet square tutorial works, but what i dont get is how can it work for me?

the father of my leo was a mack snow albino, and the mother was a super hypo tangerine carrot tail.

now i dont know what are recessive, dominant co dominant, herts etc.

so the advanced morph calculator has just baffled me (i apologise if i come across as stupid)


now if i was to use the punnet square technique... what symbols would i use for them?

now i know that someobody can easily tell me, you have a hybino or a snowglow etc, and i know i may have...... but i want to work it out for my self and learn by doing.

so the question is... i have a punnet square infront of me and i need to fill it in using a mack snow albino male and a super hypo tangerine carrot tail as a female.......what do i do?

for example (AA for albino NN for normal )

sorry if i seem confusing, but i too am confused


thanks alot for your time guys
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1.0.0 x Blue Tongue Skink
0.1.0 x Veiled Chameleon
0.1.0 x Bearded Dragon
Leopard Gecko's :
1.0.0 x Mack Snow Enigma
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0.2.0 x Super Hypo
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Old 10-10-2009, 09:37 PM
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Albino = Recessive.
Mack snow = Codominant.
Hypo = Dominant.
Super,Tangerine,Carrottail in hypo's = Polygenic traits.
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[1C]-1 Copy = (Heterozygous).
[2C]-2 Copy = (Homozygous).
Snow SPLIT Super snow = (Mack).
[1C]Snow,[2C]Snow = (TUG,GEM).
Tinted = (False eclipse).
Hyper aberrant = (Jungle).
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Old 10-10-2009, 09:40 PM
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thanks for that, it seems to make more sense, but how would i use this in the punnet square?


sorry if i seem dumb, im just trying to learn
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Leopard Gecko's :
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0.2.0 x Super Hypo
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Old 11-10-2009, 12:31 AM
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after looking at that list i'm gonna take a stab in the dark and say a
Hypo Albino / Hybino? or a Hypo Mack Snow Albino? or a Mack Snow ?


am i on the right lines?
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Old 11-10-2009, 09:05 AM
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it depends,, sothe macksnow is codominant, then the son might be mack snow or just normal. and it will be carrying albino genes (het albino) as the father is albino,,
and it will be hypo too i think. but i dk abbout those polygenic trait, i just learned the basic lol
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Old 11-10-2009, 04:25 PM
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lol im the same, just want to use my leo as a learning point with these genetics etc
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Old 11-10-2009, 10:04 PM
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Albino snow SPLIT Super snow X [1C]Super hypo tangerine = .

Normal HET Albino.
[1C]Hypo HET Albino.
Snow SPLIT Super snow HET Albino.
[1C]Hypo snow SPLIT Super snow HET Albino.

A percent of hypo offspring will likely mature into Super hypo.
A percent of offspring will likely be influanced by tangerine.
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Albino snow SPLIT Super snow X [2C]Super hypo tangerine = .

[1C]Hypo HET Albino.
[1C]Hypo snow SPLIT Super snow HET Albino.

A percent of hypo offspring will likely mature into Super hypo.
A percent of offspring will likely be influanced by tangerine.
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[1C]-1 Copy = (Heterozygous).
[2C]-2 Copy = (Homozygous).
Snow SPLIT Super snow = (Mack).
[1C]Snow,[2C]Snow = (TUG,GEM).
Tinted = (False eclipse).
Hyper aberrant = (Jungle).
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Old 11-10-2009, 10:38 PM
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well thank you very much for that

seems to make more sense now

i just have 1 little question.....sorry if im annoying, just be patient, i will get it soon lol

my question is this.

in the line

[1C]Hypo HET Albino.

doesn't the 1C mean HET?

so HET hypo HET albino = its just confusing me a bit

sorry but im using your signature to aid me ( which is very helpful )
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Leopard Gecko's :
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0.2.0 x Super Hypo
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Old 11-10-2009, 11:01 PM
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well thank you very much for that

seems to make more sense now

i just have 1 little question.....sorry if im annoying, just be patient, i will get it soon lol

my question is this.

in the line

[1C]Hypo HET Albino.

doesn't the 1C mean HET?

so HET hypo HET albino = its just confusing me a bit

sorry but im using your signature to aid me ( which is very helpful )
Yes [1C] is the dominant term for HET.[2C] ofcourse the dominant term for HOMO.
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Leopard gecko morph info.
[1C]-1 Copy = (Heterozygous).
[2C]-2 Copy = (Homozygous).
Snow SPLIT Super snow = (Mack).
[1C]Snow,[2C]Snow = (TUG,GEM).
Tinted = (False eclipse).
Hyper aberrant = (Jungle).
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Old 11-10-2009, 11:43 PM
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so the question is... i have a punnet square in front of me and i need to fill it in using a mack snow albino male and a super hypo tangerine carrot tail as a female.......what do i do?

for example (AA for albino NN for normal )
This is a three gene pair problem. Here's what I would use. (These symbols follow the rules of nomenclature for rats and mice, which the professional geneticists use.) I'm going to skip the carrottail and tangerine as those are line bred traits.

Male = Ms//Ms^+ a//a H^+//H^+
Female = Ms^+//Ms^+ a^+//a^+ H//H

Symbol meanings:
// = a pair of chromosomes

Ms = Mack snow
Ms^+ = normal version of the Mack snow gene

a = albino
a^+ = normal version of the albino gene

H = hypo
H^+ = normal version of the hypo gene

This editor does not do superscripts, so ^ sets off the superscript. H^+ stands for H with + as a superscript. + is the internationally recognized character for the normal allele for each mutant gene.

So the male is Ms//Ms^+ a//a H^+//H^+. He has a pair of chromosomes with a Mack snow gene in one chromosome and a normal gene in the other, a pair of chromosomes with an albino mutant gene in each one, and a pair of chromosomes with a normal gene in each one where the female has a hypo mutant gene.

The male produces two types of sperm, Ms a H^+ and Ms^+ a H^+.
The female produces one kind of egg, Ms^+ a^+ H.

Plug these into the Punnett square, and you get two types of babies. Clear as mud?
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