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Old 15-10-2009, 07:55 PM
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hey guys! me again!

im still new to morphs and genetics and i would just like some guidance please.

the question is this...

to breed a mack snow albino enigma

what parents would i need?

i keep trying different variations of snows, super snows, enigmas and albinos through the punnett square but i am not getting even close... i am stumped.

as i say i am still new to morphs.... so go easy on me
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Old 15-10-2009, 07:59 PM
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Right, basic ingredients:

At least one parent is a Mack snow
At Least one parent is enigma
Both parents either het or visual for the strain of albino you want.

So something like:

Mack snow Albino x Albino enigma
Supersnow Albino x Albino enigma

etc...
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Old 15-10-2009, 08:06 PM
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thanks for your quick response ....

please can you tell me where i am going wrong

using the example

mack snow albino x albino enigma


i get the results ( using the punnett square )

25% mack albino
25% albino
25% mack enigma
25% albino enigma


i know i am doing something wrong here...

i need your guidance again please
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Old 15-10-2009, 08:14 PM
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thanks for your quick response ....

please can you tell me where i am going wrong

using the example

mack snow albino x albino enigma


i get the results ( using the punnett square )

25% mack albino
25% albino
25% mack enigma
25% albino enigma


i know i am doing something wrong here...

i need your guidance again please
I'm unsure without seeing your punnet square. I personally don't use them. Here is the correct answer:

Mack snow albino x Albino enigma (assuming heterozygous enigma)

25% Mack snow enigma albino
25% Mack snow albino
25% Albino enigma
25% Albino
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Old 15-10-2009, 08:29 PM
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its hard to explain without scanning it in and everything


basically i got 3 /4 correct

my punnet square looks like this


_______ mack | albino
albino
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Enigma
_______


so the 1st field (top left )
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results as albino mack (same as yours)
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2nd field (top right)

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results as albino (same as yours)
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3rd field (bottom left)

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results mack enigma (the incorrect one)
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4th field (bottom right)

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results albino enigma (same as yours)
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if i have just confused you then we will give up lol, i dont want you wasting your time
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Old 15-10-2009, 08:55 PM
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Remember you are working with 3 mutations, mack snow, enigma and albino. Youy need to consider the Mack albino doesn't carry the enigma mutation, but the gene pair needs to be included. Also the enigma doesn't carry the mack snow genes, but the gene pair needs to be included.

Get it? I find it difficult to explain via written word.
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Old 15-10-2009, 08:57 PM
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i've got a mack snow bell albino and next season i'm pairing her with my male bell sunglow enigma, in the hope to produce some very nice babies! with this I should have a 25% chance of a mack snow bell albino enigma. well judging by the genetics calculator anyway :S xx
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Old 15-10-2009, 09:05 PM
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right i see....

i think i might know what went wrong


i originally, at the top of the square (as a parent) had


Mack | Albino


but i think what your trying to say is that i should have


Mack | Albino
Albino|


so then the bottom left field will result as mack snow albino enigma

am i correct?
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Old 15-10-2009, 09:07 PM
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See if you get on better with this.
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Leopard gecko morph info.
[1C]-1 Copy = (Heterozygous).
[2C]-2 Copy = (Homozygous).
Snow SPLIT Super snow = (Mack).
[1C]Snow,[2C]Snow = (TUG,GEM).
Tinted = (False eclipse).
Hyper aberrant = (Jungle).
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Old 15-10-2009, 09:11 PM
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to be honest with you....

i find those calculators as a way of taking the fun out of it

they are great at proving your theories, but i do prefer to work it out for myself, and then use it to check my results....


PS i also cannot find albino enigma on it

unless it goes by another name
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1.1.0 x Mack Snow
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