Which morph

[pigeon]

Hi i have a murphy patternless male leo can some one tell what morph would be good to breed him with and what i would get.
Thanks.

[messengermatt]

The only thing you can breed to that is another Muprheys as its a recessive gene - unless it has hidden hets which you wouldnt know about unless you test bred with other morphs and hatched one of them.

Unless you do the above you will just get normal babies

[pigeon]

ok thanks for your help.

[MrMike]

Originally Posted by messengermatt

The only thing you can breed to that is another Muprheys as its a recessive gene - unless it has hidden hets which you wouldnt know about unless you test bred with other morphs and hatched one of them.

Unless you do the above you will just get normal babies

Not strictly correct.

Snow lines, Giants, enigmas, hypos can produce a % of non-normal offspring when paired with a Murphy patternless.

I would personally go with something M.patternless or het M.patternless, maybe something snowy? M.patternless snows are rather pretty

[pigeon]

Ok any one got a picture of a M.patternless snow.

[messengermatt]

Originally Posted by MrMike

Not strictly correct.

Snow lines, Giants, enigmas, hypos can produce a % of non-normal offspring when paired with a Murphy patternless.

I would personally go with something M.patternless or het M.patternless, maybe something snowy? M.patternless snows are rather pretty

MrMike im keen to hear more, what else can you get from breeding other morphs with a murpheys ?

[MrMike]

Originally Posted by messengermatt

MrMike im keen to hear more, what else can you get from breeding other morphs with a murpheys ?

Breeding any non-recessive morph, ie Mack snow (Co-dom), TUG/Gem snow (dominant), Giant (Codom?), Enigma (Dominant), to a Murphey patternless will give a % of visual morphs het for M.patternless.

Eg:

Supersnow x M.patternless will give:
100% Mack snow het M.patternless

Enigma x M.patternless will give:
50% Enigma het M.patternless
50% Normal het M.patternless

(above assumes the enigma is het for enigma)

etc....


Breeding a non-M.patternless recessive morph to a M.patternless will result in 100% normal babies het for both recessive traits.

[messengermatt]

Thanks MrMike you have confirmed what i was already thinking