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Yeah we are trying to head for platinum offspring! They are stunning!

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Old 28-02-2009, 09:20 PM
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A couple more questons....

If I was to put a Bloodred to a Blizzard, then bred back the offspring would that produce a Whiteout?

Also if I was to put a Bloodred to a Butter then bred the offspring back would I produce sulfers?

Probably totally wrong lol

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Actually, the first generation cross of a Golddust Motley to an Ultramel would produce:

Amels het Caramel and Motley (25% chance per egg)
Ultramel het Caramel and Motley (50% chance per egg)
Ultra het Caramel and Motley (25% chance per egg)

So depending on the F2 you chose (I'd pick an Ultra het Caramel Motley personally and breed it to a Butter Motley if Golddust Motley was your goal - you'll get 100% ultramel-based animals, with 50% chance of getting Caramel and 50% chance of getting motley in any given animal).

Oh yeah - Hypo Anery/Charcoal is also called Platinum - and it's BEAUTIFUL.
I know all this, but you should have seen me trying to figure out when tired. My brain was just in knots, but i'd started so had to finish.
I know that ultramel is aaau, not homozygous both, because the two are allelic to each other, and I myself wanted a platinum...but there we go. It took me 15 minutes to remember that phantom is hypo charcoal, I was thinking it was hypolav! Doh.
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Old 01-03-2009, 10:44 AM
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If I was to put a Bloodred to a Blizzard, then bred back the offspring would that produce a Whiteout?

Also if I was to put a Bloodred to a Butter then bred the offspring back would I produce sulfers?
Yes, in both cases you'd have a 1-in-64 chance per egg to produce the triple homozygous. If you wanted better chances, putting a Pewter to a Blizzard (for charcoal het Bloodred Amel) or a Fire to a Butter (for Amel het Caramel Blood) would give 1-in-16 odds per egg of getting your triple morph - significantly better odds!

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I know that ultramel is aaau, not homozygous both
Personally I would not express Ultramel as aauu because that implies it IS homozygous Amel aa and homozygous Ultra uu. I'd express it as a clear single pair - a/au - if I wasn't able to do superscripts to make the u display correctly. Amel doesn't need the double a because it's a single half of the gene pair; ultra ideally has the superscripted a indicating it's Amel-locus allele variant ultra.
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Some more.....

If I was to use the offspring of a Ghost x Snow pairing could it produce a Coral Snow?

This maybe completely wrong but if I was to pair a Ghost x Blizzard then bred back offspring would I have any chance to produce Powders?

I will get my head around it eventually lol.

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if i breed a bloodred male with a lavender female, is is true that you get 100% het for plasma, which you can then breed together and get some pure plasmas? cheers
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Yes, if you breed a Bloodred to a Lavender, the offspring will all be het Lavender Bloodred, and if you bred them together you'd have a 1-in-16 chance per egg of getting a Lavender Blood out.
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cool cos i already have a blood red male, so i was finking about getting a lavender female to breed with him to make those, and also i have the option of breeding this same lavender in a couple of years time with one of my babies from this year who is going to have het for lavender in them so i get the chance of some pure lavenders too. thank you. genetics is pretty fascinating when you get into it, so many possibilities, amazing!!
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Hi Guys,

This one is hurting my head a little.

Can anyone confirm or correct my thinking...

If I have a corn billed as a Phantom het Platinum Bloodred

Phantom is a Hypo Charcoal.
Platinum is Hypo Charcoal Anery.
Granite is Diffused Anery.

Does this mean the snake is
Hypo Charcoal het Anery, Bloodred
or combined to be
Phantom het Granite?

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Yes, in both cases you'd have a 1-in-64 chance per egg to produce the triple homozygous. If you wanted better chances, putting a Pewter to a Blizzard (for charcoal het Bloodred Amel) or a Fire to a Butter (for Amel het Caramel Blood) would give 1-in-16 odds per egg of getting your triple morph - significantly better odds!



Personally I would not express Ultramel as aauu because that implies it IS homozygous Amel aa and homozygous Ultra uu. I'd express it as a clear single pair - a/au - if I wasn't able to do superscripts to make the u display correctly. Amel doesn't need the double a because it's a single half of the gene pair; ultra ideally has the superscripted a indicating it's Amel-locus allele variant ultra.
I didn't put aa/uu, i put aa/au. Which according to what I have learnt from Charles Pritzel's book etc is right- above you state that it should be the 'a' in superscript which isn't right, but maybe you made a mistake. The first letter/s of the symbol indicates the locus. then the one in superscript indicates the gene that is residing there whether it be wildtype, ultra or amel, therefore the symbol for ultra starts with an a, and has a 'u' in superscript. I know that if it were possible to do a homozygous ultra and a homozygous amel that it would have to look aaaa/auau. At the end of the day you have to have learnt about the symbols in order to understand them however they have been written, so if someone hasn't ever learnt about them and they mistake aaau as being homozygous then that's because of their lack of knowledge, not my way of putting it . I also think writing it like I did is the original and full way of writing it, which you could argue is clearer to understand than something someone has shortened.
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