corn morphs genetic requests.... any??

[bothrops]

Originally Posted by bennyvenom

ok i have one ,

amel stripe het hypo + anery female with either of the following:-

pueblacorn

snow

anery

corn x pueblacorn = more pueblacorns...not my cup of tea...I'll let someone else talk genetics (assumption is that if normal hybrid all animals would be het amel stripe poss het hypo and anery)

amel stripe het hypo anery x snow = amels het stripe and anery poss het hypo and anery


amel stripe het hypo anery x anery = 50% normal het amel, anery and stripe poss het hypo, 50% anery het amel stripe and poss het hypo




All of the above assumes no unknown hets in either parent

Cheers

Andy

[bennyvenom]

thank you , i have no idea about hets for the other snakes so maybe one or two surprises in store

[Drodge]

What would be the outcome of candy-cane and an amel stripe?

And if when amels and stripe genes are crossed you get all amels het for stripe, how does an amel stripe animal come about?
I mainly ask the second question because I have tried the corn morph calculator before and many a time wondered this...
Also would there be any possibility of getting a candy-cane stripe? and if so what would you have to breed together?

Many thanks,
Dave

[bothrops]

Originally Posted by Drodge

What would be the outcome of candy-cane and an amel stripe?

And if when amels and stripe genes are crossed you get all amels het for stripe, how does an amel stripe animal come about?
I mainly ask the second question because I have tried the corn morph calculator before and many a time wondered this...
Also would there be any possibility of getting a candy-cane stripe? and if so what would you have to breed together?

Many thanks,
Dave

A candy cane is genetically just an amel. However it has been selectively breed to have a very white background and very red saddles. If you breed it to a 'normal amel' you'll get all amels that will be a range from 'a little bit candycane' through to normal amel and every where in between.
You will NOT get 'candycanes' out.


so candycane to amel stripe will give 100% amel het stripe.

In order to get a recessive gene to show in an animal the animal needs to have two copies of the gene.

Therefore if you breed two normals het stripe then you should get 75% normals and 25% stripes. Breed a stripe to a het stripe for 50/50 stripes in the litter.

the same goes for amel stripes

amel het stripe to amel het stripe = 75% amel 25% amel stripe
amel stripe to amel het stripe = 50/50 amel/amel stripe


if you breed normal het amel stripe to normal het amel stripe you'll be looking at 9/16 normal, 3/16 amel, 3/16 stripe, 1/16 amel stripe

in any het to het mating the normals will also have a chance of being het themselves.

Cheers

Andy

[Drodge]

Cheers.
But still wondering if it's possible to get a candycane stripe?
I know candycane=amel selectivly bred, but can you get the candycane colouration in stripe form?
Dave

[Ssthisto]

You wouldn't get candy cane stripe in the first generation of stripes, no.

That's because you'd have to selectively breed the ones with the whitest backgrounds together. And because Stripe tends to reduce the contrast between background colour and pattern colour, it wouldn't be an easy task to get bright clean stripes *and* bright white background.

[Drodge]

So theoretically you could eventually after lots of selective breeding, but even then it's quite unlikely to get the actual colour tones of the candycane.
Thanks for clearing it up,
Dave

[Ssthisto]

After generations of selective breeding - and I'm talking multiple multiple generations of fairly inbred snakes, unless you could get enough unrelated Candy Canes to back-cross and recover the stripe out of - you might well get light red or orange-and-white candy cane stripes - but it'd take a lot of doing.

[Drodge]

Yea thats what I thought would be nice if it was easier...

[BISH9098]

what about an amel stripe and caramel stripe? Exscuse my ignorance but im new to this!