Goverment Petition

[Danny_mcr]

will certainly get my vote, good luck with the petition m8 same with dogs i wouldn't buy from shops only breeders , only time i go rep shops now is for rodents

[bladeblaster]

the word 'self' 'foot' and 'shoot' spring to mind..........

[Ssthisto]

Originally Posted by marcgroovyge

Myself and friends are looking to forward a petition to the goverment regarding reptile welfare in shops. Many reptiles are not properly looked after and also sold as healthy when they are not. We are trying to make all shop have certain policies in place, adequate training and veternary check on all pets to be sold to be placed in order to keep a licence. I'm am looking to see how many people would back us in protecting reptile welfare

There is already legislation covering this.

It is called the "Pet Animals Act 1951".

http://www.opsi.gov.uk/RevisedStatut..._19510035_en_1

[bronzeyis200]

This is a good idea in principle but would only give the relevant anti's ammunition against us!!

[retic lover]

Dont do it this could just open a huge can of worms, the Antis will love It Its all extra ammo for them

[laura1486]

Same as a post not too long ago that received some heated debate as to whether such measures were needed. Was titled 'sign this petizion' or something like that, just remember it from the petition being spelt wrong.
Running theme of that one seemed to be that legislation was already in place and was more than efficient and that nothing more need be done, only suggesting that we as keepers ought to report poor conditions to the authorities.
I'll say what i said on that thread that the problems mentioned DO EXIST and that current legislation DOES NOT WORK!
It is in place, hbut is less than efficient to see that REPTILES are kept in decent condition whilst in pet shops.

Need evidence? http://www.reptileforums.co.uk/snake...-disgrace.html
Problems are reported, and still, receive minimal assistance. Something more does need to be done legislation wise, as what currently is in place does not fully cater for the needs of various reptiles. If it did, then the person that was sent to assess the problem in the mentioned thread, would have had full training about the needs of Bearded Dragons, at the very least, enough so to understand the issue with offering such an animal HORSE FOOD as a diet, and would have seen the danger in this animal not receiving ANY fruit &/or veg.
Problems exist, if you do not see them, or believe them to be handled successfully without any further adjustment whatsoever, then you must be blind!

[laura1486]

Originally Posted by retic lover

Dont do it this could just open a huge can of worms, the Antis will love It Its all extra ammo for them

'Constructive Criticism' mean anything to you? If the antis where faced with a response of 'yes we are aware of these issues, more to the point Mr/s Anti, these issues are currently being sought to be addressed by the herpetocultural society itself as it is these people that have raised the flag on this issue', then is that such a bad thing?

[laura1486]

Originally Posted by bronzeyis200

This is a good idea in principle but would only give the relevant anti's ammunition against us!!

The ammunition exists anyway, reported, petitioned against or not, and more to the point is blatently obvious to anyone who opens their eyes wide enough, or who sees the condition that some animals are kept in and knows that this is incorrect.
The "us" part only relates back to 'us' if we all are reptile shop owners.

[andy_771]

it is just my opinion but is it a good idea to stop buying anything from these bad pet shops supply and demand if there is no demand they will stop stocking reptiles or better still in the case of the bad ones they will go bust.

[krazykayaker]

i have signed up but only 31 so far ...come on RFUK