RSPCA Rescue Horses

[Andy]

RSPCA In Horse, Pony & Donkey Rescue In Buckinghamshire |Sky News|UK News

Just thought that they way people go on about the RSPCA being evil etc etc and doing nothing etc etc and they should be abolished I would postthis and ask the question if the RSPCA were gone tommorow as some people keep saying they want then who will take over and carry on the majority of the good work the RSPCA do?

[Nerys]

if the RSPCA were gone tommorow as some people keep saying they want then who will take over and carry on the majority of the good work the RSPCA do?

tbh andy, if the rspca was abolished, it would free up over £250 million. that, i think, would be enough to fund something a bit better.. rather than saving up to replace defra.

if the rspca took their hands out of their pockets and spent some of the money given to them by duped members of the public, they might not have had to kill over 850,000 animals in the last 10 years, and maybe their statisitcs for rescue and rehoming, would not show a defecit one year of over 40,000 animals.. with the average rehoming % being less than 50% of what is taken in. (this is taken from figures collated from the rspca's own data btw)

let me see if i can find the link of the pictures of the sites the RSPCA use to hold horses they have rescued.

personally, i know of many many other groups who are much better placed to help equines than the rspca.

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[Andy]

Originally Posted by Nerys

let me see if i can find the link of the pictures of the sites the RSPCA use to hold horses they have rescued.

personally, i know of many many other groups who are much better placed to help equines than the rspca.

N

The RSPCA said 14 animals were removed over the weekend "on veterinary advice" and were taken to the Home of Rest for Horses at Westcroft Stables in Speen, near Princes Risborough.

This taken from the article, is that a good group?

[Nerys]

well, andy, THIS is an rspca approved horse holding.. so who knows...

Would you keep a horse in these conditions? The RSPCA have.

Would you keep a horse in these conditions?
The RSPCA have.

Buildings at NantGwynFaen Farm where animals had been kept with nowhere to lie down or eat except in pure muck! When were they cleaned out or given straw?





Note the jagged rusting corrugated iron sheeting used to block the doorways.

Front and back view of unprotected drop. Spike harrow (drags) in which horses could catch their feet and break a leg.



Superintendent Manning of the RSPCA stood next to the unprotected drop when surveyor Mr. Barry Stone was trying to estimate the height of it and said "If it helps I'm 5'5" but if anything fell over here an inch or so either way wouldn't make much difference."



Note string which animals could eat, and wire and muck.

Just imagine what would happen if a child or a horse ran into this unguarded implement!



There were cattle there and this was where they came to try and drink. Although no water was there at the time, when it rains and fills up, they would undoubtedly try and drink the filthy water.



The water supply for the mares at Nantgwynfaen was a muddy trickle at the bottom of a steep slope and very difficult to get at.





Old tin shed near unfenced silo. This could collapse on horses if they went in or near it and they did go down towards it as we were leaving.



There are many photos of dumped corrugated sheeting left where the animals could run into it and cut or injure themselves. Photos of coils of barbed wire strewn on the ground for horses to catch their feet in are also available



more to follow

[Andy]

Thats all very nice but doesnt answer the question... I am sure you could go out and find pictures like that anywhere but the fact of the matter is you cannot just get rid of the RSPCA without having something ready to take the place of them.

EDIT: Just looked at that site where you have got those pics from bit of an anti RSPCA site, I am sure for every bad picture you find there are hundreds of good ones out there...

[Nerys]

Mare with twisted leg at Nantgwynfaen. Her hoof had grown completely onto the side and instead of walking on it she was walking on the side of her foot. The RSPCA had been using an unregistered farrier and later shot her rather than return her to her owners in this state.



E.g. of state of hooves at Nantgwynfaen. Other photos available.



The photo below is from other land rented by the above. Rock strewn railway tunnel through which the stallions had to walk to get to water. When it rains the rocks are completely submerged (we have photos) and the stallions either had to drink the dirty water collected there or risk a broken leg.



The mare with the twisted leg at Linton Ridge. She had finally had some corrective trimming of her hoof, although our vet predicts that arthritis will have set in by now.The mares had to try and pick food out of the mud and muck on the ground.



Water provided for horses at The Glenda Spooner Trust near Warwick.



Glenda Spooner horses grazing a muck covered field near Warwick a sure way to worm infestation.



The horse whose tendons were severed whilst in the care of the RSPCA at the Glenda Spooner Trust.

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The stallion in the pen at O'Gradys's. This is a copy of a photocopy of the original photo which will be available later.



here's a letter from the British Equine Vet Association, more on that here

Equine Cruelty Cases, the RSPCA and Veterinay Surgeons.



rspca

Ripoff Society Pretending to Champion Animals

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[zirliz]

That looks like an awful place to keep any kind of animal, there are some very cruel people out there

[Nerys]

Originally Posted by Andy

Thats all very nice but doesnt answer the question... I am sure you could go out and find pictures like that anywhere but the fact of the matter is you cannot just get rid of the RSPCA without having something ready to take the place of them.

EDIT: Just looked at that site where you have got those pics from bit of an anti RSPCA site, I am sure for every bad picture you find there are hundreds of good ones out there...

i have to say, i do agree, the rspca should be replaced yes.

in fact, many of the inspectors on the ground are decent people. its only the heirarchy that are "merchant bankers"

so why not get rid of the men and women at the top, who care about money and power and playing people off against each other, and instead replace them with the decent inspectors who they do have, but are largely under funded, under rewarded, and under euipped

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[stephenie191]

Originally Posted by Andy

Thats all very nice but doesnt answer the question... I am sure you could go out and find pictures like that anywhere but the fact of the matter is you cannot just get rid of the RSPCA without having something ready to take the place of them.

EDIT: Just looked at that site where you have got those pics from bit of an anti RSPCA site, I am sure for every bad picture you find there are hundreds of good ones out there...

I agree with that - but the people who ran this were to blame not the RSPCA as a whole!

[Nerys]

just think, it would not have taken a lot out of their 250,000,000 pounds stashed in the bank, to improve that place.. just a few days interest would have given them a good head start on improving it!

and andy, the only way i could answer specifics, would be to go there, or see pics from there, otherwise how would i know? and how, for that matter, do you know they are a good place? you don't, any more than i know its a bad one.

all i am saying, is the rspca's track record in animal care, is, to put in mildly, pretty shit.

N