Help with leo breeding morphs

[evilangel]

I've just seen a post about a patternless and albino together will produce normals. personally i can't get my head round morphs and would like to know if the quad i have will produce nice babys. so if any one could help i would appreciate it. i have been thinking of getting another quad so any suggestions would be great

Ive got an Tremper Albino male and female, a tangerine reverse stripe albino poss giant poss het eclipse (i think) and a female murphy patternless (all pics r in my signature)

[sam12345]

Im pressuming your on about the post i made :P

Breeding two incompatible ressesives together will only produce normals seen as the gecko needs a gene passed from each parent to be a phenotype (visual) for that gene.

Tremper x Reverse stripe albino (assuming tremper) het eclipse
100% Tremper albinos with varying tangerine and varying patterning
All poss het eclipse and if the female proves to be giant 50% chance of the offspring being giant.

Tremper x Patternless
100% Normals het Tremper and Patternless.

Hope it helps

[evilangel]

i did hun hanks for that what male would i be best to pair with the patternless then

[Jon2ooo8]

best thing for the patternless is to get another patternless or het patternless, otherwise you will only get normals

[evilangel]

well i'm shocked and gutted

[Young_Gun]

Originally Posted by evilangel

well i'm shocked and gutted

The good thing about pairing incompatible genes though is that when bred together they will give you a double visual.

Albino x Blizzard - All normals 100% het Albino and Blizzard.

Normal 100% het Albino and Blizzard x Normal 100% het Albino and Blizzard - Blazing Blizzards.

The more visuals you have in a morph the higher the value as you have had to put the extra time and effort in and breed them, an Albino will be cheaper than a Patternless Albino and a Patternless Albino Blizzard will be more expensive than them both.

You just need to decide if you want quick returns or are willing to invest in longer term projects.

[pigglywiggly]

depends what morphs you like?

you could get a mack snow het patternless and you`d produce to your patternless = mack snow patternless, mack snows, normals het patternless.

maybe it would help to write a list of which morphs are dominant ( normal) co-dom ( mack snow ) recessive ( blizzard, albino ) and line-bred, and try to get your head around it from that direction?

or you could always post your patternless to me..........i have a mack snow het patternless who`d love to meet her, lol

[sam12345]

Get a mack snow patty or super snow patty for him

[evilangel]

Originally Posted by pigglywiggly

depends what morphs you like?

you could get a mack snow het patternless and you`d produce to your patternless = mack snow patternless, mack snows, normals het patternless.

maybe it would help to write a list of which morphs are dominant ( normal) co-dom ( mack snow ) recessive ( blizzard, albino ) and line-bred, and try to get your head around it from that direction?

or you could always post your patternless to me..........i have a mack snow het patternless who`d love to meet her, lol

lol i was going to sell her as she did hate me but has decided to make friends with me

it's the co dom recssive i cant get my head round lol so a mack snow male would be a good start for my other quad then what other 2 females should i get

[pigglywiggly]

co-dom`s ( mack snows ) are great, cause to

1) a normal you`ll get half normal, half mack snow.

2) two mack snows together will give a mix of normal, mack snow and a few with two copies of the snow gene to give you supersnows

3) supersnow to normal = macksnow

and you can start to put other colours through like tremper to make mack snow albinos

or patternless snow albinos..............the permutations are endless!