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Old 04-08-2007, 04:56 PM
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In the wild 2 differnt species dont live together they just live in the same area. If there in a viv together they are being forced to live together, they have no choise.
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Old 14-08-2007, 02:26 PM
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ive got 2 whites in with my red phase crested gecko and theyget on just fine, the food amount is even there is plenty of space for each animal as whites need a lot of room there is never conflict or no signs of illnes. But i do understand what you mean and it is good knowlegde to have if considering mixing, thanks.
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Old 14-08-2007, 03:48 PM
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I keep both whites and cresteds, but having kept them ive seen even more reasons why i would not mix them. As you'll have noticed, the hunting styles of the 2 species are very different. The whites will wait for the perfect opportunity and then jump onto the insect, sometimes from quite a distance, whereas the cresteds will just dart at it as they see it. The cresteds have to be alot closer to the prey item than the frogs to be succesful. If they are all competing for the same prey items the 2 styles of hunting will disrupt the other, as, for example the crested may jump for the cricket while the frog is patiently waiting to strike. My frogs are very active hunters, much more so than the geckos, my frogs will actually jump onto my hands while im feeding them and have been known to grab onto my finger thinking it was food. How do they get on with mistaking the geckos tails for food?

Also how do you get along with making sure the frogs don't get covered in CGD?
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Old 11-09-2007, 04:47 PM
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I keep both whites and cresteds, but having kept them ive seen even more reasons why i would not mix them. As you'll have noticed, the hunting styles of the 2 species are very different. The whites will wait for the perfect opportunity and then jump onto the insect, sometimes from quite a distance, whereas the cresteds will just dart at it as they see it. The cresteds have to be alot closer to the prey item than the frogs to be succesful. If they are all competing for the same prey items the 2 styles of hunting will disrupt the other, as, for example the crested may jump for the cricket while the frog is patiently waiting to strike. My frogs are very active hunters, much more so than the geckos, my frogs will actually jump onto my hands while im feeding them and have been known to grab onto my finger thinking it was food. How do they get on with mistaking the geckos tails for food?

Also how do you get along with making sure the frogs don't get covered in CGD?
This is obviously two species that cannot co-habit..
My beardie often cuddles up next to my dog and falls asleep, its its own decision and neither participant minds, both casually fall asleep with each other.
Its a question that is obviously species specific, this sticky is not a place to argue it though....


My vote... a mod comes and cleans up this thread from the useless jargon (no offecne to participantsd), as far as im concerned a sticky is a thread people should read, and ONY comment if really necc, in this case i think not
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Old 11-09-2007, 08:14 PM
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i have seen many pictures iof an exhibit of which there are mixed mspecies and none look at all stressed

i see no problem with mixing cwd & awd 7 sailfins & basilisks in a room sized enclosure bearing in mine each species should have their own different areas to frequent i.e basking sites for each individual where available

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http://www.fishpondinfo.com/photos/r...s/janpaul8.jpg - all i can say is toad...
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i poersonally dont mix and wouldnt unless i had a room sized enclosure im just stating that there are folks who do mix & have sucess so here we go - proof lol

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Old 11-09-2007, 08:27 PM
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oh wow thats pretty impressive
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Old 11-09-2007, 09:02 PM
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it is the most impressive display i've seen & from what I can make out its from a private collection which is truly amazing

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Okay, I'm throwing in a new angle for you all to consider.

As a general rule nearly all reptiles in the wild live solitary lives coming together only to breed, females do not even tend their young for goodness sake, they make a nest lay eggs and run away.
In captivity we force them in to an unnatural setting (I'm not even going to raise the arguments of tubs/boxes and racks ) with artificial light and heat and hope that they thrive. Then we decide we want to put in the opposite sex to produce babies, instinct takes over i don't think they choose to do it.
Then we think it'll be a good idea to get more than one and "hope" that the other one likes it. Because they do not scrap we think hey success.

We do it because we want as many as possible in the smallest space possible. Plenty of people myself included have put their own selfish needs before that of their pets and its time that some of these people stop and think if they really are providing the best possible for their pets or just massaging their own needs/wants and desires.

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Old 15-10-2007, 08:48 PM
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Then we decide we want to put in the opposite sex to produce babies, instinct takes over i don't think they choose to do it.
- that's not true and you know it.
There are many species of gecko (and snake im sure) that are not easy to breed, and you can not just throw them in together.
Many only breed at certain times of the year, in certain places, and people have tried unsucesfully to breed geckos over and over, then one year they might breed..after lots of tweaking.
It is incorrect to say instincts take over and they dont choose to do it..
Geckos have instincts to be mated and lay eggs to continue their species...some, take pictus geckos for example, will copulate as many times possible, and the female will keep laying eggs even after being taken away from the male after the first copulation for months, even years.
Some speceis will only lay eggs in underground chambers, some only in tree hollows, and some will lay anywhere and everywhere.
Tiz not right to generalise...
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