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When my last 4 Leo eggs have hatched I'll add my data to this thread.
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I do agree with you about temperature fluctuations and the problems they allegedly cause. All too often a photo of a deformed hatchling is posted up and everybody automatically says it's due to fluctuations in temperature.
*nods* personally I feel that more problems arise through incorrect humidity, lack of air exchange (build up of stale air etc), incorrect temperatures (ie too hot/too cool) and even condition (or lack of it) of the females then through temp fluctuations plus ~ as I found out unintentionally ~ even with a temperature drop of over 10*f for several hours affects on embryos depends a lot on how advanced they are.
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Well i unintentionally hatched a cwd in the laying box in the females viv
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*nods* personally I feel that more problems arise through incorrect humidity, lack of air exchange (build up of stale air etc), incorrect temperatures (ie too hot/too cool) and even condition (or lack of it) of the females then through temp fluctuations plus ~ as I found out unintentionally ~ even with a temperature drop of over 10*f for several hours affects on embryos depends a lot on how advanced they are.

I have to agree with this. There are likely to be a variety of factors that will affect incubation success. I have to say though, I do think that many of the abnormalities that get put down to temperature fluctuation need a little more looking into.

Come on guys, I know more of you have had successes and failures this year.

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I have to agree with this. There are likely to be a variety of factors that will affect incubation success. I have to say though, I do think that many of the abnormalities that get put down to temperature fluctuation need a little more looking into.
*nods* I know some american breeders had a rough season last year with numbers of infertile eggs, fetal death, hatchling death and deformities which resulted in some changing their livefood source and/or the livefood itself and for some there are still problems this year typically with females raised last year and bred this year .... will try and find the relevant links for you
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wow...iv just read the whole of this thread and its just blew me! it seems such hard work breeding reps! well done to all breeders! i couldnt do it but its intrestin to see how it works! think i will just stick to 2 female leos lol
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Well i unintentionally hatched a cwd in the laying box in the females viv
Thats pretty interested. How deep was the substrate it was buried in? Did you just miss a single egg, or were all the eggs left?

With a bit more information, this could be quite an interesting case.

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You should certainly add your own successes and failures then. It isn't important how many individuals you have bred, but success rates of different animals would be nice to hear.

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Thats pretty interested. How deep was the substrate it was buried in? Did you just miss a single egg, or were all the eggs left?

With a bit more information, this could be quite an interesting case.



You should certainly add your own successes and failures then. It isn't important how many individuals you have bred, but success rates of different animals would be nice to hear.

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There were 3 eggs that i missed, i think the other 2 were duds from the start as they didn't look like they had grown at all. The substrate in the lay box was around 6 to 7 inches deep and the eggs were right at the bottom with only a thin layer of substrate underneath. We measured the temp in the same area of the lay box and at the same depth the eggs had been at, it measured 78f during the day and 76 at night. During the summer we did have a 40w bulb in there and now have a 60w but the temps are the same. Ideal temp for cwd incubation is 82-84f.
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Thats really interesting. What was the humidity like? Also what were the results from the eggs you did find?
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