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[denny2]

Where i keep my horse Denny, there is also a council strays kennels,a Boarding kennels and a cattery. We also have the scouts camp next door, for the last 20 years the owners of the Stables/Kennels/cattery have fought with the scouts about the annual fireworks display, they hold it only 50 yards from the main stable block and only 20 yards from where the hay and bedding is stored.Last year was denny,s first fireworks display, it went on for 1 and a half hours . In that time Denny a very nervy ex rescue ex racehorse tried to climb out of his stable over an 8 foot breezeblock wall and it was all i could do to stop him jumping his stable door to get away from the noise and the flashes. He bashed his head on the stable roof, grazed his knees on the walls and was so jumpy for days after he was unridable, so me being me decided to write to the scouts, local newspaper,environmental health office, and fire brigade.The result i got was 6 months later when i was told that my letter had been read out at the scouts A.G.M. and they had decided that maybe i was right and that they should move it to another venue.Which i was told they would do.All year we.ve been heaving sighs of releif and now tonight ive been told that they are holding it at the scouts camp as usual ,i,m absolutly furious as Denny now lives directly opposite the scout camp now and not side onto it like last year, he was bad enough last year this year he,ll see and hear every thing and i,m dreading it, has anyone else been in this situation with their horse and does sedating them help ??? i,m scared that if he shys badly while sedated he,ll end up on the floor, ive the option to move him back to his other stable but he never settled back into it after last years display....i, now dreading friday night.....

[daisyleo]

I feel for you and Denny, I hate the bloody things, seeing my staffy suffer year after year is horrid!!!

Right go to your local horse feed supplier and get some liquid horse calmer, it's all natural ingredients basic herbal remedy.
We use it on our dog and unlike a "sedative" which leaves them powerless but they can still mentally suffer from the noise I have been told, the calmer just does exactly that calms, Bailey usually goes mad for a while then once the stuff kicks in he sleeps, on the label it says for cattle, horses & working dogs but it was a last ditch attempt to stop our boy hurting himself like poor Denny did in shock
good luck, maybe a radio on too would distract him from the main noise?

[fatratsandcheesekk]

denny i feel for you and on behalf of scouts (this is not my group) i apoligise if you PM me the area you live i can give you the details of the district comisioner the head bloke of the areas contact details and from the distences you said would also be violating health and safety with the group using fireworks that close to hay

[denny2]

Originally Posted by daisyleo

I feel for you and Denny, I hate the bloody things, seeing my staffy suffer year after year is horrid!!!

Right go to your local horse feed supplier and get some liquid horse calmer, it's all natural ingredients basic herbal remedy.
We use it on our dog and unlike a "sedative" which leaves them powerless but they can still mentally suffer from the noise I have been told, the calmer just does exactly that calms, Bailey usually goes mad for a while then once the stuff kicks in he sleeps, on the label it says for cattle, horses & working dogs but it was a last ditch attempt to stop our boy hurting himself like poor Denny did in shock
good luck, maybe a radio on too would distract him from the main noise?

thanks for posting, the radios are usually used , the noise from them winds him up tho . ....i,ll try anything , i just wished i could move him somwhere else. ive used calmers on him before but they dont seem to work, he tends to override them , he,s a bit more chilled this year so i,m hoping he wont be so bad , i,ll nip to the tack shop see what they have .

[denny2]

Originally Posted by fatratsandcheesekk

denny i feel for you and on behalf of scouts (this is not my group) i apoligise if you PM me the area you live i can give you the details of the district comisioner the head bloke of the areas contact details and from the distences you said would also be violating health and safety with the group using fireworks that close to hay

Hi i emailed the district comissioner last year , beleive me they do not care , the group is westhall scouts witburn sunderland.

[daisyleo]

Yeah I would, anything is worth a go isn't it when you worry about them so much, I don't like giving Bailey anything tbh but I am so glad I let the OH buy this stuff last year as it is a gods send, maybe try a different brand to what you used last time see if they have different ingredients, also make sure you give it to him PRE the first bangs as I have found once they are wound up it does take more time to work

Fingers crossed for you and best wishes to Denny x

[Emmaj]

I know its extremely petty but i would stand with a powerful hose pipe an put them out as they light them


I cant believe they lied to you saying they would change the location right up to the last min what a wonderful set of leaders them scouts have hey

i would keep complaining 100 x a day if i was you and then hopefully they may listen or even could you contact the fire brigade and ask their advice on them having it so close to the animals and hay

[denny2]

Originally Posted by Emmaj

I know its extremely petty but i would stand with a powerful hose pipe an put them out as they light them


I cant believe they lied to you saying they would change the location right up to the last min what a wonderful set of leaders them scouts have hey

i would keep complaining 100 x a day if i was you and then hopefully they may listen or even could you contact the fire brigade and ask their advice on them having it so close to the animals and hay

lol. we were just discussing hosepipes tonight with the stable owners...ive emailed the scouts with my concerns ..and threatened to go to the press.

[Emmaj]

Originally Posted by denny2

lol. we were just discussing hosepipes tonight with the stable owners...ive emailed the scouts with my concerns ..and threatened to go to the press.

LOL im glad its not just me with an evil streak in me then

hose pipes seem like the best option though if you have no joy

[Pliskens_Chains]

im pretty sure that the scouts being a public group have to abide by the law where public events are held. e.g. health and safety during a public event.
who owns the ground that the firewoorks display is held on? If it actually belongs to the scout brigade uk then you dont have much option to stop it (apart from the fact you can legally do a peacefull sit where the display is being held provided you state straight away that it is a peacefull protest) if however if it belongs to the local council then it is up to them to stop reckless endangerment and public nuisance and them you need to contact to stop it.
like emmaj said though you could always make sure their bonfire is completely drenched in water so it wont light and make sure that any fireworks that are sent up are soaked (that could be dangerous though in the fact that the hose might not put them out but might just send them off course into a neighbours window.)

oh as an after thought, it might be in your interests to actually contact the RSPCA and see what their look on it is, maybe they will pay the scouts a visit. Sounds like the thing the RSPCA will happily poke their noses into.