No criminal

[Tan]

Guys come on. Surely as she is trying to get all her animals to the vet, has been given all the infomation we (the collective hedgehog community and all other animal people) can provide. Has openly said she shall refund the two owners can we not leave this now for them to deal with in private. They have all discussed this openly but I think now it is going beyond being helpful to anyone Ian & Julie, Chaz and Shell are all dealing with something now that I wish on no one, not my worst enemy, keep this in mind and try remain helpful. Surely the best you can ask for is someone to see the error of their ways and do all they can to rectify that problem.Lets just hope it all works out for the best. If your going to do some indi research I highly recommend you check out some published works by Donnasue. I have been trying to get other owners aware of her, shes top dog and bang on with her research. Great on WHS,actually probably the best the world has to offer. You will also learn a lot from other people experiences (which is one reason I found this thread to be helpful) and tried and tested methods.

[happyhogs]

I think, if for one moment, people believed Shell to ever have seen the error of her ways, they would back off but there seems to be little evidence of that. Regardless of finally taking ONE hog to the vet and offering a refund to ONE owner, there is still a mist of denial and deceit. I have never, in all my years of keeping and breeding a variety of animals, come across someone who has prompted me into this style of debate but I truly believe Shell should not be owning or breeding anything at all EVER!!

[Tan]

Now theres an interesting point raised. Did you know most hedgies have worms?? Most owners don't know this and don't treat for it. I advise (including shell) all owners to worm. My vet now does it with her own APH given she uses injections but we use Parazol for cats & dogs. One tell tail sign in all genus is a slimey, gelatinous green poo BUT they can have them and show very little to no signs. Just like with mites, stress can induce the load to become more noticable and some owners have confused a worm dropping for a runny-ish stress induced poo.

[pjlucy]

I have read all forums regarding this matter, and I myself have 3 little hogs.

This has become a complete witch hunt, As usual everyone seems to be joining the bandwagon.

She has offered to pay back the 2 people involved.

Bottom line is she has made some mistakes and has openly said sorry.

What more do you want from this woman?


The owners of the little hogs she sold to them have made people and her aware that there is potentially a problem with her herd.

The breeder is trying to sort out her husbandry and has seeked advise from her vets.

Everyone has made their point

Put it to rest and leave the woman alone.

Can everyone honestly say (which I doubt) that they have never made even the tiniest mistake,? be it hers was not a tiny one, but let it go.

[enola69]

but its not just one mistake.

Its mistake after mistake.

[pjlucy]

Maybe so Enola, but Im sure everyone will remember it and wont use her as a breeder.

[enola69]

I just hope she is doing the right thing for her animals.

[pjlucy]

Thats all we can hope for hun.

[pgag_1_york]

Originally Posted by enola69

but its not just one mistake.

Its mistake after mistake.

and lie after lie

[angeldog]

and she still hasnt taken all her animals to the vets, taking only 1 is pointless as ive already stated. how many more people will buy infected hoglets from her, it wont just go away on its own.
there is obviously some sort of eye infection on the hog that went to the vets, or did the vet give out medication for nothing.

also as the vet doesnt give out prescription meds without seeing an animal where did the ringworm treatment from that she was claiming to already have? what friend would have sent her a prescription medication without a vetinary license?