No criminal

[Heavenlyhogs]

i was always hygenic when handling anyhoglets and the time the condition was bad i hardly handled them at all and when i did my hand was either plastered or bandaged...in fact when ian and julie collected leo i held the hoglet in the uneffected hand.And it is eczema and that's been confirmed by a doctor very very familiar with it.If it was anything else it would not be gone now would it because the antibiotics i was on would have had no effect.

[Heavenlyhogs]

i have offered to cover the treatment chaz to clear the ringworm and since there's no evidence it came from my home this is generous,if you hadnt have gone about this the way you did chaz and come to me first you know what? i would have happily given you a FULL refund.
And i sent you an email to tell you i wouldbe sending pickle christmas presents which would have included the things you mentioned were missing.

[Heavenlyhogs]

You have ALL Pickles vet history authorised for release to your own vet.

[Chazybabe]

1) i never said it was bad ect ect (his nose that is) i just said i wasnt told of his scab at all before you brough him down.

2) I can afford vet bills, just not to buy friends and family anything, i get £100 a week and its all going on Pickle atm his current bill for todays was £57 that means im not having any left over for me for xmas as i stated, as in a 3 weeks he will be back to the vet which will cost more again so the money i have saved in the mean time will be going on this as well as the norm things like food ect and im lucky that my parents would pay but i want dont want them to, im asking you as his breeder to make a example of how much you care and remburse me so i can pay for extras liek skin scraps not just treatment for the obvious but actually find out which type it is ect which will help!

3) Im not going behind your back i seeked other views opinions and facts off others as to widen my knowledge in APH which i think is a good thing to do. When i look into buying even a pair of hair straightners i dont just go for the 1st ones i tend to look at all the pros and cons and ask others in the no not just 1 person. (hair straightners are the only example i can think of at half 2am! as i can see them lol!)

4) I already liked him and had some photos of him form you as he was growing up i was already in love with him im a soppy 18yo you expect me to turn down the cutest bundle ever and make it travel for 4hours when hes already stressed and covered in poo as he didnt travel well? No i was liek a over broody woman just wanting to take him there and then.

5) I had no idea of the nose thing before you came and i did ask when i saw it, well no you told me before you even got him out the carry case i then asked how it was caused if it was ok ect.. to which you said it was a rub from rooting under food bowl and was fine and would just drop off (the scab not his nose that is!!) But when i posted on a forum saying look at my gawjus new baby people started saying how did he get that and it looked serious so obvioulsy i worried!! And sought advice. Scab then came off and all is fine, all im saying is should have said before selling. Not there and then as im handing you my cash.

Iv got a grip of ringworm im hating that word so much! Iv read and read so much in the last week on it i could probably tell you in my sleep!

I dont care that i have something for some one thats been ill since she can remember i dont really care its that i dont want to give it to friends as at my age its not going to go down well with a bunch of other teenagers! And i dont want to have to treat all the pets! As then i would be over stretched which most people would be having to treat all at once theres not many that could afford that! I could just but that would be it just that nothing else for a while!

[Heavenlyhogs]

For the record i have NEVER stated my hogs will be uk reg.
ALL my hogs ARE reg internationally.And yes they do come with birth certificate which will be fowarded to you.

[Chazybabe]

I never said they would be uk reg i just said reg wether it be USA or Irish i really dont mind but i had none of any kind.

So you dont want Pickle to get the best treatment then? As i can afford to treatment but i want to cover all areas and tests so i know hes had everything possible done for him, as hes like a child to me, im sure you would be the same with your children.

Also at this rate the vet bills will be MORE than £150 so in my eyes full refund if fair as other wise you could be paying alot more.

Where was this advert changed to? Please may you send the link.

And Shell this is about Pickle, iv not said you have a criminal record im not saying your hosue is this that and the other, im not slating you, i just want the same as i hope you do and thats finding out why Pickle is ILL!

[Heavenlyhogs]

I understand that Chaz of course you want varied opinion but as pickles breeder i should have been informed of how unhappy you were with things.I should have been 2nd in line to the vet.That's what i'm saying.

[Chazybabe]

When i realised that Julie had had a problem with ringworm and you emailed and asked if i had i said yes as i had this rash no idea what it was and then it all clicked, the fact that pickle was all flakey i had tried bathing ect but hadnt got any better i asked you on advice for this you said it was prob just quilling and he should be ok as none of yours had symptoms and should of if Pickle or the other hog Leo had ringworm thing is they do just its hard to notice on something covered in spines, so you said to just bath him with oatsoap or something? But when this doesnt work and im wondering what else i can do after iv asked and tried you and your suggestion i thought id ask others. Wasnt so much underhand but in need of help and my vet didnt even no there was such a thing as a APH! Hence the ong trip to a vet that did!

[Heavenlyhogs]

Of course i care about his welfare and well being why the hell would i even be bothering with this if i wasn't.
Paying for his treatment is fair unless it's without a doubt it came from here.
Any futher testing ect is down to you.
You will need to send me the vets receipts.

[Heavenlyhogs]

usually vite oil oatmeal is recommended for dry skin.
Have you asked hedgehogcentral about this,they are far more clued up because they have been keepers longer....
As stated although there's nothing to confirm where this originated from i'm still happy to help...and i think this is best sorted off the forums now...or it could go on forever.