More help needed (sorry!)

[harlequin]

Hello again! Sorry to keep asking a million questions!

Carrying on from this thread: http://www.reptileforums.co.uk/other...baby-mice.html

I could use some more advice.

Ok so basically I had 2 female mice together in a little cage.
It turns out that they were both pregnant, I have 10 babies at the moment and I'm sure one of the mice has given birth but I don't know if the other one is yet to go or the 10 are half hers?
I want to take her out into another cage if shes yet to go (this is what Ive been advised to do) but I obviously don't want to take her away if some of the babies are hers!

Shes pretty big but the same size as the one who has deffo had babies (who was humungus just before she had hers) and they both have the same nipples lol

What should I do? Separate or keep em together? I was told it wouldn't be ok for them to stay together if they had separate litters at diffferent times.
I just want whats best for the mummys and babies and have no clue what i'm doing!

Thanks and sorry for the long post!

[Mischievous_Mark]

I have two litter in together that are 3 days apart, the females will both raise the young.

However the first milk that they get from the mothers in full off antibodies ( Colostrum (sp?) ), which the new borns would need but not get because the other litter woul dbe bigger and stronger and will push they out of the way.

Do you have any pictures of the expect mouse ?

[harlequin]

Originally Posted by Mischievous_Mark

I have two litter in together that are 3 days apart, the females will both raise the young.

However the first milk that they get from the mothers in full off antibodies ( Colostrum (sp?) ), which the new borns would need but not get because the other litter woul dbe bigger and stronger and will push they out of the way.

Do you have any pictures of the expect mouse ?

Sorry no pictures! I feel like im asking really stupid questions but people have terrified me with stories of mice eating each others babies and the what not and I want all my babies alive and healthy lol

Surely if she hasn't had hers yet she won't be feeding the other mouses litter will she?

I thought about just moving both mice and the babies into the bigger cage so they had some more space but I was worried about touching the babies.

[Mischievous_Mark]

They should be fine, just give them plenty of food and some food rich in protein to help produce milk.

Do you know when the mouse was expecting ? what date was it you put he rin with the male ? or are these rescued/shop bought with uknown breeding ?

[harlequin]

Originally Posted by Mischievous_Mark

They should be fine, just give them plenty of food and some food rich in protein to help produce milk.

Do you know when the mouse was expecting ? what date was it you put he rin with the male ? or are these rescued/shop bought with uknown breeding ?

I was given the 2 females and have no idea when either of them were due lol Im assuming if nessa hasn't had hers yet they won't be here for a little while as stace got alot bigger before she had hers, if I see ness start ballooning i'll grab her out and put her in the other cage.
What would you recommend as protein rich food? one person said scrambled egg?

[Mischievous_Mark]

Originally Posted by harlequin

I was given the 2 females and have no idea when either of them were due lol Im assuming if nessa hasn't had hers yet they won't be here for a little while as stace got alot bigger before she had hers, if I see ness start ballooning i'll grab her out and put her in the other cage.
What would you recommend as protein rich food? one person said scrambled egg?

Yup hard boiled egg, scrambled egg.

I give my mice millet, puppy bonios, dog food, A bit of cat food (dry that is ), I think i herd of people mixing lactol puppy formula in seperate water bottles ( dont quote me on that tho, knowing me ill have dreamt about it and thought it was real lol )

[Mischievous_Mark]

heres a list of food you can give mice.

Fruits

- Apple (seedless)
- Banana
- Blackberries
- Blueberries
- Cantaloupe.
- Cherries
- Cranberries
- Grapes(seedless)
- Lychee
- Mango
- Melon
- Peaches (no stone)
- Plums (no pits)
- Raspberries
- Raspberry Leaves (helpful for diarrhea)
- Strawberries
- Watermelon

Veggies

- Asparagus
- Bean Sprouts
- Bok Choy
- Broccoli
- Cabbage (Limited amounts)
- Carrots
- Cauliflower
- Celery
- Chard
- Chestnuts
- Chickweed
- Chicory
- Clover
- Corn on the Cob
- Cucumbers
- Dandelion Leaves
- Endive
- Green Beans
- Kale
- Parsnips
- Peas
- Radicchio
- Romaine Lettuce
- Spinach
- Squash
- Sweet Potatoes
- Sweet bell Peppers
- Swiss Chard
- Turnip
- Water Chestnuts
- Water Cress
- Zucchini

Meats and Proteins foods

- Cooked Ground Beef (Rinse well in hot water to remove any grease)
- Cooked Chicken or Turkey (Steamed or baked)
- Low Fat Cottage Cheese
- Fish Cod (Cooked removing bones and skin)
- Grasshoppers (Pet Shop)
- Mealworms (Pet Shop)
- Crickets (Pet Shop)
- Bread(whole grain no white bread) soaked in milk ( Low Fat, Skim, Soy)
- Eggs ( boiled or scrambled)
- Plain Tofu
- Plain Low Fat Yogurt
- Dog Biscuits (No Garlic, onion, or onion powder)
- Monkey Chow
- Lab Blocks

Other foods

- Buckwheat
- Baby Food(low sugar and no onion or garlic)
- Cheese (mild cheeses in moderation)
- Cooked Plain Brown Rice
- Cooked Pasta(Wheat or Spinach would be better)
- Dry toast(Also helpful for diarrhea
- Flax seed
- Low or Sugarless Cereals
- Pumpkin Seeds (unsalted)
- Nuts (No almonds)
- Sesame Seeds
- Soybeans(Roasted no salt)
- Squash seeds
- Lentils
- Oatmeal(dry or soaked in skim, soy or lowfat milk)
- Nutritional Yeast
- Bran and Wheat Germ (Refrigerated goes bad fast)
- Peanuts (unsalted)
- Alfafa
- Unsalted Popcorn (no butter)
- Millet

Foods To Avoid

- Almonds (Contains Cyanic Acid)
- Apple Seeds
- Canned food
- Chocolate
- Candies
- Chips and Junk food
- Pork Products
- Potatoes (Raw)
- Raw Kidney Beans
- Eggplant
- Fool's Parsley
- Grape Seeds
- Avocado (Contains Cardiac Glycosides)
- Raw Rhubarb
- Tomato leaves
- Oranges or Tangerines(no citrus fruits)
- Cherry Stone
- Peach Stone & Leaves
- Apricot Stone
- Lemon or Lime
- Jams and jellies
- Spices
- Garlic
- Onions
- Leeks
- Scallions
- Chives
- Pickles


I take no credit for this list, I copied it from another forum so if thres anything wrong with it please say so.

[harlequin]

Originally Posted by Mischievous_Mark

Yup hard boiled egg, scrambled egg.

I give my mice millet, puppy bonios, dog food, A bit of cat food (dry that is ), I think i herd of people mixing lactol puppy formula in seperate water bottles ( dont quote me on that tho, knowing me ill have dreamt about it and thought it was real lol )

Brilliant thanks for everything!
Now I just have to learn how to sex em so I don't end up doing this all over again! I dont think I could stand the stress lol

[Mischievous_Mark]

Originally Posted by harlequin

Brilliant thanks for everything!
Now I just have to learn how to sex em so I don't end up doing this all over again! I dont think I could stand the stress lol

Ive got 43 baby mice, all different ages

Fancy Mice Breeders &bull; View topic - Sexing pinkies (Photo's upto 4 weeks) <--- this is how i learnt to sex my babies, its also a great forum full of breeders that are willing to help people out in times of need although the forum is a little slow at times.

[harlequin]

Originally Posted by Mischievous_Mark

Ive got 43 baby mice, all different ages

Fancy Mice Breeders &bull; View topic - Sexing pinkies (Photo's upto 4 weeks) <--- this is how i learnt to sex my babies, its also a great forum full of breeders that are willing to help people out in times of need although the forum is a little slow at times.

those pictures all look exactly the same to me! lol I can see this is going to be fun haha