price of tailless rat ?

[JulieNoob]

I'd expect to pay about 20% less than for a full rat Since that's what you get but I wouldn't choose to buy something with a deformity and the tails are the best bit of ratties

[Horatio]

What they said!

[LisaLQ]

Originally Posted by JulieNoob

I'd expect to pay about 20% less than for a full rat Since that's what you get but I wouldn't choose to buy something with a deformity and the tails are the best bit of ratties

[leeky]

There's a place in Birmingham that sells tail less rats for £55. It's unreal..and so unfair on the rat.

[cpiggott22]

Originally Posted by leeky

There's a place in Birmingham that sells tail less rats for £55. It's unreal..and so unfair on the rat.

that's horrific!

[saxon]

Originally Posted by rattygirl

I wouldn;t pay a penny for tailless rats.... The cons definitely outweigh the pros in terms of health. I don;t see why people can;t be happy with rat with tails, the way they're meant to be.

And yeah, Laura's were from a breeder who'd cut the tails off >_<

I don;t think Kathy is saying that Laura would allow her rats to be bred from, I think she's saying about breeders who breed tailless rats

I know Kathy wasnt' saying Laura lets rescues to be bred from. It's just that Neil will want them as breeders so it would be irrelveant if he asked Laura for any as she wouldnt' rehome to a breeder.

Originally Posted by LisaLQ

Ps. I've not read anyone, let alone Kathy, suggest Laura sells rescues on for breeding from. I think someone didnt read properly and got the wrong end of the stick!

Yes they did, you did, I was stating that it would a none starter for Neil to ask Laura for any as he would like to breed them and therefore Laura would not rehome to him.

[LisaLQ]

It might have been worth saying that then, instead of letting Laura assume that Kathy was suggesting otherwise.

We're not psychic, "Neil" didn't say that he was after some for breeding....did he?

[saxon]

Originally Posted by LisaLQ

It might have been worth saying that then, instead of letting Laura assume that Kathy was suggesting otherwise.

We're not psychic, "Neil" didn't say that he was after some for breeding....did he?

I can't see where Laura has assumed Kathy said she would allow her rescues to be bred from!!!!!!!!

Neils doesn't hide the fact he breeds his rats and most people on here know that.

[gazz]

Here's some info for anyone concidering breeding them.

Breeding Tailless Rats


By Carissa Cosley

• Tailless rats can be any color.
• Taillessness is due to a defect.
• You have a much greater
  chance of having babies
  with more damaging
  defects than you would if
  you were breeding rats
  with tails.
• Female Tailless have a
  hard time conceiving;
  many are sterile; are more
  prone to having a very
  hard time in delivering
  their kittens; and most
  cannot carry their young
  full-term.

Tailless Rats. They were first unique, at best strange. They have been very popular and that is why I am writing.
I have been breeding rats and mice for many years. I became very interested in the Tailless, but before I got my first one I looked all over for information about the cute little guys. I couldn’t find anything on Tailless rats in books, or any other publications, so I started asking breeders questions. I still didn’t get a lot of answers. Now, after quite a bit of time I have my own answers, information, and different theories about Tailless rats, and I would like to share a little about them with you.
About Tailless Rats
Tailless rats can be any color. The most common are Black, Blue, Siamese, Champagne, and Agouti, but you can breed them in any color if you try. Tailless rats are distinctive in their total absence of a tail and their rounder, cobbier body.

When Breeding Tailless rats, it is important to take into consideration the age, size, condition, type, conformation, color, and true Taillessness of your rat or rats. If you look for those few things when breeding, you will have better Tailless kittens. If you are breeding Tailless, or plan to breed them, here are a few things to think of first.
Genetic Mutation
Tailless rats are a genetic mutation. Take into consideration that the reason they are Tailless is due to a defect. Because you are breeding for this defect, you have a much greater chance of having babies with more damaging defects than you would if you were breeding rats with tails. Some of these defects include limp tails, many kinds of leg and spine problems, crooked legs and feet, missing limbs, paralysis, and many others. If you breed animals with any of these problems, you will get more of the same.

I am not saying that you will always have problems when breeding Tailless rats. In fact, problems are fairly rare. It’s just something to watch out for and to breed against.
Breeding Stock
There are two kinds of breeding stock. The first type is a tailed rat which has Tailless genes behind it. It might have a Tailless mother, father, grandparents, etc. The second type is a rat which is, itself, Tailless.

Breeding Method
My best luck so far has been breeding Tailless males to females with tails who have Tailless in their background. I breed this way because Tailless females stay smaller and most cannot carry their young full-term. Tailless females also have other skeletal abnormalities which do not help out.

Tailless females are more prone to having a very hard time in delivering their kittens. I think this is mostly because of the birthing position. Most normal tailed does sit on their haunches to give birth. Tailless rats do not have a tail to counterbalance themselves, so they cannot sit in this position for long periods of time.
There also appears to be a higher frequency of kitten paralysis and abnormalities when their mother is Tailless. You also risk a greater chance of losing your Tailless female in late pregnancy or during birthing. For the people out there that think you have a greater chance of having Tailless kittens by breeding Tailless to Tailless, to my knowledge you don’t. You only have a greater chance of defects. You also run the risk of losing your female and her litter if she does get pregnant. Finally, often female Tailless have a hard time conceiving, and many are sterile.

[LisaLQ]

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