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Old 17-11-2009, 02:25 PM
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the one i had was from pets at home strange thing though it was fully grown any ive seen since then were far to young to be being sold imo. whats wrong with gerbils from some petshops u cant tar all of them with the same brush some petshops are absolutely fine.
What's wrong with breeding them or buying them? I didn't understand which question you wanted answering.

Some pet shops are great, usually the small independent ones but not huge chains like pets at home. Ask loads of people from thr gerbil community and they will all say the same. Most of the time the gerbis are hunched over, don't survive long or have behaviour issues. That's what you get when you mass produce an animal.
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Old 17-11-2009, 02:49 PM
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What's wrong with breeding them or buying them?
I think Andy is trying to say that it's not advisable to breed any animal sourced in a petshop (correct me if I'm wrong Andy). Also, if you want a healthy animal that's well socialised, you are better off going to a decent breeder that you have checked thoroughly (and decent breeders don't breed for petshops). Petshop animals come with no history, very rarely get the handling they need and are usually from poor quality "stock" with health problems, sometimes these problems are not evident in the first generation. If one wants to breed healthy animals, one should get them from a good source, and a petshop is not the place. You might not be able to 100% guarantee you have no health problems but you will 100% guarantee everything was done to prevent it. And you will know the history of the lines health and temperament wise.

However, this is irrelevant to the OP's problem as she wasn't wanting to breed them. When it comes to getting a pet, the choice is to go to a reputable rescue or a really good breeder (and I wouldn't class someone breeding any old thing as really good - there are ways to vet breeders). I wouldn't go to a petshop or anyone who breeds for them, this scenario that the OP has had is very common with petshop animals. If history, health and temperament wasn't an issue to me, I'd rather give my money to a rescue.
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Old 17-11-2009, 04:51 PM
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na here my mistake as i have been successful (no health probs lived for over 4 years) with a gerbil from a petshop so there can still be successes but i accept there is many not so cases, ive just had a look at the phoenix site excellent "With any adoption, you will need to agree to our terms and conditions, including a promise that any gerbil that you have adopted from us which you can't keep anymore for whatever reason, must be returned to us" this statement should come from all breeders of all animals i will sit back and read, ive got 2 from a petshop at the moment i will breed them for the experience but more than likely the pups will stay with me anyway if i ever thought about breeding for sale i would prob contact phoenix gerbils but that aint gona be for at least another 4 years . peace
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Old 17-11-2009, 05:21 PM
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I think Andy is trying to say that it's not advisable to breed any animal sourced in a petshop (correct me if I'm wrong Andy). Also, if you want a healthy animal that's well socialised, you are better off going to a decent breeder that you have checked thoroughly (and decent breeders don't breed for petshops). Petshop animals come with no history, very rarely get the handling they need and are usually from poor quality "stock" with health problems, sometimes these problems are not evident in the first generation. If one wants to breed healthy animals, one should get them from a good source, and a petshop is not the place. You might not be able to 100% guarantee you have no health problems but you will 100% guarantee everything was done to prevent it. And you will know the history of the lines health and temperament wise.

However, this is irrelevant to the OP's problem as she wasn't wanting to breed them. When it comes to getting a pet, the choice is to go to a reputable rescue or a really good breeder (and I wouldn't class someone breeding any old thing as really good - there are ways to vet breeders). I wouldn't go to a petshop or anyone who breeds for them, this scenario that the OP has had is very common with petshop animals. If history, health and temperament wasn't an issue to me, I'd rather give my money to a rescue.
I know the history of my lines. I don't breed from pet shop gerbils for the reasons you have stated plus others

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na here my mistake as i have been successful (no health probs lived for over 4 years) with a gerbil from a petshop so there can still be successes but i accept there is many not so cases, ive just had a look at the phoenix site excellent "With any adoption, you will need to agree to our terms and conditions, including a promise that any gerbil that you have adopted from us which you can't keep anymore for whatever reason, must be returned to us" this statement should come from all breeders of all animals i will sit back and read, ive got 2 from a petshop at the moment i will breed them for the experience but more than likely the pups will stay with me anyway if i ever thought about breeding for sale i would prob contact phoenix gerbils but that aint gona be for at least another 4 years . peace
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I know the history of my lines. I don't breed from pet shop gerbils for the reasons you have stated plus others
No worries, but I wasn't commenting on you? Glad you agree though.
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No worries, but I wasn't commenting on you? Glad you agree though.
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No worries! I've never kept gerbils, look forward to hearing more about yours.
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