pit bull

[gazz]

Originally Posted by LiamRatSnake

It was deffo a Pit Bull/pit x It couldn't have been anything else.

Really ?,Deffo ?,Couldn't be anything else ?.

Here's two cropped eared American pit bull terriers.
A band breed in the UK.


Here's two cropped eared Dogo canario.
A breed that's fully legal two own in the UK.
It's not legal for then to be cropped in the uk.
If they have have cropped ears there F1 UK imports.


Here a Dogo Canario the UK now with cropped ears.
Spanish Mastiff / Presa Canario / Dogo Canario Imports

[saxon]

I agree that it's not always the owners fault a dog is dog aggressive but it is their fault if it is allowed to carry out an attack!

Some breeds are naturally dog aggressive and it's difficult to train this out of them..I know it's possible I'm saying it's difficult.
I have my bitch who, through having a fight with my unaggressive 'Staff X', is now 'bitch aggressive'. I'm in the process of trying to rectify this but it's proving very difficult.

Of course I have her on a lead and muzzled when I take her out just in case some 'tit' with a small bitch decides it can come and play with her.
Not all dog aggressive dogs are owned by 'tits' are they? Sometimes it's the over friendly dogs who are owned by 'tits'.

[longhaircavies]

Originally Posted by gazz

Really ?,Deffo ?,Couldn't be anything else ?.

Here's two cropped eared American pit bull terriers.
A band breed in the UK.
image

Here's two cropped eared Dogo canario.
A breed that's fully legal two own in the UK.
It's not legal for then to be cropped in the uk.
If they have have cropped ears there F1 UK imports.
image

Here a Dogo Canario the UK now with cropped ears.
Spanish Mastiff / Presa Canario / Dogo Canario Imports

Just what i have but a brindle and like i said mine doesnt have croped ears and iv still had people ask me if he's a pitt, so it goes to show some people really cant tell.

[LiamRatSnake]

Originally Posted by gazz

Really ?,Deffo ?,Couldn't be anything else ?.

Here's two cropped eared American pit bull terriers.
A band breed in the UK.
image

Here's two cropped eared Dogo canario.
A breed that's fully legal two own in the UK.
It's not legal for then to be cropped in the uk.
If they have have cropped ears there F1 UK imports.
image

Here a Dogo Canario the UK now with cropped ears.
Spanish Mastiff / Presa Canario / Dogo Canario Imports

There's a good chance your right, but them dogs do look a lot different. I'm not up on breeds, but my Mum is, and after hearing about dog fights and witnessing one myself, it's easy to jump to the obvious conclusions.
If they were cropped pits, I'm not assuming they were done legally/professionally.

[marthaMoo]

I was only just telling my sisters Oh that I saw one in a local town today.

A young red and white male with the full leather harness and collar on : /

I know there are apbt types around, but I havent seen a apbt in this area for many years.

I was quite shocked and saddened to see it being shown off in public like that, with no regard for its life if it were to be seized.

A good few years ago I was all "its about the owner and its nothing to do with the dog" but it is also to do with the dogs and anyone thinking any different is very stupid. Allot of these apbt's are from fighting lines and Bull Breeds are naturally reactive anyway. Mix the two and it could be like walking a loaded gun.

I had a friend who had an apbt, she had it from a puppy, she was brought up in a multi animal house, more socalised than most dogs I know. One day she took her out with her other dogs and let her off lead. Something must of just snapped as she spotted two terriers the other side of the field and just flew. The two terriers were killed on the spot, they didnt stand a chance. My friend did the only thing she knew she had to do and took her girl to the vets and had her pts.

My point, these dogs can and will just snap and most of the time you wont see it coming.

[gazz]

Originally Posted by LiamRatSnake

If they were cropped pits, I'm not assuming they were done legally/professionally.

But that my point the mastiff imports are legal breeds to own in the UK.So if you own a F1 import mastiff with cropped ears you have nothing to worry about coz you'll have all the forms and import papers'etc.

However if you did own a American pit bull terrier the last thing you do is crop it's ears.So who in there right mind would ?.Crop the ears of a band dog breed as that would draw exsta attention to them.

[LiamRatSnake]

Originally Posted by marthaMoo

I was only just telling my sisters Oh that I saw one in a local town today.

A young red and white male with the full leather harness and collar on : /

I know there are apbt types around, but I havent seen a apbt in this area for many years.

I was quite shocked and saddened to see it being shown off in public like that, with no regard for its life if it were to be seized.

A good few years ago I was all "its about the owner and its nothing to do with the dog" but it is also to do with the dogs and anyone thinking any different is very stupid. Allot of these apbt's are from fighting lines and Bull Breeds are naturally reactive anyway. Mix the two and it could be like walking a loaded gun.

I had a friend who had an apbt, she had it from a puppy, she was brought up in a multi animal house, more socalised than most dogs I know. One day she took her out with her other dogs and let her off lead. Something must of just snapped as she spotted two terriers the other side of the field and just flew. The two terriers were killed on the spot, they didnt stand a chance. My friend did the only thing she knew she had to do and took her girl to the vets and had her pts.

My point, these dogs can and will just snap and most of the time you wont see it coming.

I'm a beleiver in, it's the owner not the breed philosophy, but I think some breeds are more likely to snap, than others. The main problem in my eyes is that Bull breeds are more likely to eat a child, not because of the breed, because of the type of people they appeal to. I'm sure most owners are good, I know lots of Staffie/Mastiff ect owners who are brill, but the people after a status dog don't go for Collies.

[LiamRatSnake]

Originally Posted by gazz

But that my point the mastiff imports are legal breeds to own in the UK.So if you own a F1 import mastiff with cropped ears you have nothing to worry about coz you'll have all the forms and import papers'etc.

However if you did own a American pit bull terrier the last thing you do is crop it's ears.So who in there right mind would ?.Crop the ears of a band dog breed as that would draw exsta attention to them.

You're quite right, I din't think about it like that, unless they're fighting the dog (I always assumed they were cropped as it's one less thing to be ripped off).

[fenwoman]

Originally Posted by hedgehog738

are pit bulls illeagel in england? because i saw someone today with one with no muzzel or anything. i thought it might be a staffy so i asked her n she said it was a pit bull


?????

yes they are illegal and I am glad they are. Vile things. I wish a few more breeds would go the same way too.

[fenwoman]

Originally Posted by marthaMoo

I was only just telling my sisters Oh that I saw one in a local town today.

A young red and white male with the full leather harness and collar on : /

I know there are apbt types around, but I havent seen a apbt in this area for many years.

I was quite shocked and saddened to see it being shown off in public like that, with no regard for its life if it were to be seized.

A good few years ago I was all "its about the owner and its nothing to do with the dog" but it is also to do with the dogs and anyone thinking any different is very stupid. Allot of these apbt's are from fighting lines and Bull Breeds are naturally reactive anyway. Mix the two and it could be like walking a loaded gun.

I had a friend who had an apbt, she had it from a puppy, she was brought up in a multi animal house, more socalised than most dogs I know. One day she took her out with her other dogs and let her off lead. Something must of just snapped as she spotted two terriers the other side of the field and just flew. The two terriers were killed on the spot, they didnt stand a chance. My friend did the only thing she knew she had to do and took her girl to the vets and had her pts.

My point, these dogs can and will just snap and most of the time you wont see it coming.

You'll get flamed for seeing sense like that. This breed and other high aggression breeds like the presa etc should be wiped off the face of the earth. They have no place in public or in a family situation. Hpowever much the afficionaods tell you they are bred for one thing and one thing only, to kill other liveing creatures. They do it for fun with almost no sign of outward aggression. I have seen youtube videos of these 'things' attacking other people's pet dogs and they are like a machine. No growling, no snarling, no raised hackles, just silent killing mode. I wish the blasted beasts were all wiped off the face off the earth and I make no apologies for saying so, even to those who want people to believe that they are as sweet natured as any cavalier king charles spaniel and could live happily with small children, old ladies and pet cats. They can't!!