Anyone bought rats from KKpets

[rosie75]

Thank you all for your comments
There is more that concerns me, but I am not here to slate people
I know my situation isn't an isolated incident, shall we say
I was just wondering if anyone has purchased a rat from them, especially Latikas litter.
In case anyone has bought one to breed from they can be aware.
I phoned the vets when we first got him, he said to keep an eye on him because it could be stress related.
I will book his appointment at the vet Friday if the snuffling continues, as suggested, it may be due to stress
I must say though, this morning he has been out and having a little run around, he actually walks better now, because he used to walk like creeping, tummy dragging on the ground
I am a breeder myself, and have owned rats for 10 years.
This is the first little one I have come across that has been limp
We are in the process of socialising him with our other 2 boys and the cages are side by side
They all play happily together out of the cage, but he gets so scared of them in a cage (they only sniff him) that he hides under the food bowl and won't budge, so it's a work in progress.

[KathyM]

That creeping sounds like pretty normal (but perhaps a bit excessive) fear behaviour. If you'd only had him hours I would say it was normal, but a well socialised baby shouldn't be like that around other babies.

I agree with Dawn about the statement about handling, perhaps they were factoring petshops into the equation though, I don't know. Perhaps there aren't many decent breeders near her.

When I'm saying this I'm not defending anyone, just trying to think of other explanations. I don't know her, and personally don't like the look of the site, but without her actually being a member here I would feel very uncomfortable going further. Perhaps someone could invite them.

[rosie75]

Yes, she is a member on here, just a different name from what they use around the other forums
cutencrazychickbabe

[Minerva]

I know quite a few people who have either visited them and been disgusted, or who have bought rats underage, underweight and riddled with health issues.
Rosie75 You are correct this isnt the first instance of it....

[rosie75]

I'm so sorry for the people who have bought ill rats from her
I'm not one for trying to slate people, because I know everyone has their own way of doing things, but there is also wrong ways of doing things too
I am glad there is some awareness, because if I had known previously I would never have visited KKpets TBH

[LisaLQ]

I've heard of them, and although I know the rat fancy can be incredibly bitchy sometimes, I've never heard anything good.

If you go on the big rat forums and search "kkpets", you'll find many a thread. One saying they home at 3.5 weeks.

[rosie75]

And they other user name the are currently using on here is
Kristen

[kristen]

Please dont start an argument on here, the woman who wrote this forum has really upset my girlfriend already with all the nasty comments she has been making on the fancy rat forum.
we never sell rats under 6 weeks old, the rat she got COULD drink form a water bottle and eat rat food as we have watched it do so for the past week and a half. It has been handled every day from birth as are all our animals, and it was definitely not snezzing or walking weirdly when it was with us, otherwise he would have stayed with us as we were thinking about keeping him anyway until Sandra showed up.
He could just be missing his friends as a reason for his timidness as he was with other boys when he was with us. Not sure if he is with ther boys or not now, but if not i suggest putting him with another and watching him come out of his shell.
She is a breeder near us, so to be honest I wouldnt be suprised if she was doing her best to slate us to get more business for herself.

Lets not turn this into another fancy rat forum argument, and Sandra, if you have anything to say come and say it to me either via phone or in person, not post a load of rubbbish around different forums. If your just going to complain about us on every forum and wont speak nicely to us to ask for help and advice on him, please return him and you can have your money back, but I can assure you there was nothing visably wrong with him when my girlfriend sold him.

[rosie75]

This was posted before the thread on the other forum.
The thread on the other forum wasn't started by myself, and I only commented on the post when I heard others had similar experiences to myself and you said you had changed your ways
I refused to comment anymore on that thread so I PMed you to explain I wanted other owners of Biscuits siblings to be aware. (which you haven't replied to)
I rang you first and you said you had 1 brown boy left for sale, before we arranged for me to visit
Yes, my daughter has started breeding, which I fully made you aware of. I would never try to blacken anyones name to 'get more business for myself'
As it stands, all going well, we are only going to be breeding 3 litters a year, and I already have a waiting list.
As I said in my PM, it's not the money and I wouldn't return him, as I know I can give him the 1-1 attention he needs
I emailed you originally to make you aware of the situation, something you dismissed
As you keep insisting that your rats have colds, and won't acknowledge the respiratory risk, I thought it only right to ask if anyone has siblings from the litter

[kristen]

I am acknowleging the respitory risk, and if the little boy gets the symptoms again I am going to take him to a second vet to get another opinion.
I am just saying you cant tell us we havent changed our ways when we have completely turned them around in the last 3 years.
Biscuit was showing no symptoms of anything while he was with us, maybe the move brought them out into the open if there is anything wrong with him, but he was eating and drinking fine while he was with us for over a week and a half, and he didnt sneeze once.
Im sorry it has happened to you, but you sometimes do get one or two rats that have problems that show up as they get older. It in no way sows the health of the wole litter