Anyone bought rats from KKpets

[saxon]

Originally Posted by missyrain

just another thing if someone takes there rat they just got from you to the vet and they says its under 6weeks you could go to jail


p.s i am not being nasty just saying what i think

No you wouldn't...

1. the vet probably couldn't agea rat kitten so precisely
2. whether it's right or wrong, ethically, it is not illegal for a private breeders to sell under 6 weeks old, not rodents anyway, as long as the animal is weaned.
3.. Petshops are legally bound by the age they can sell baby animals. I think it's supposed to be 8 weeks but it may be 6 weeks.

[LisaLQ]

Should tell that to the pet shops then, because I've seen much younger babies in pet shops, rescued some whose littermates died because they were given in too soon (and not even by a novice, it was a well "known" breeder). They were less than 50g, roughly 3-4 weeks old max.

Has the site been updated recently? I thought it used to say that you bred from a female 3 times, but that was a while ago so I'm glad that practise has changed

[saxon]

I let two petshops have syrian hamsters from me, only because I have known the owners for many years, they both tell me that they are allowed to take in rodents at 'weaning' but must quarantine until 'between' 6 and 8 weeks old.

I take my syrains in at 5.5 weeks, as they are bloody huge babies, they are quarantined in shop for 72 hours, they then usually have new homes after 2-3 days so are in the shop less than a week.
I also take my babies back if they get old enough to 'argue' with each other whilst in the shop. This has never happened yet.

I do get rat kitt sales via the petshops but my kitts dont' go into the shop unless I meet the new owner there.

One of hte shops did get some rat kitts in and he phoned me up to go check them out. They were between 40-45grms, no more than 4 weeks, I brought them home and they were weaned by one of my does with a very small litter. The went back tot he shop after 2 weeks a lot healthier and happier.
I kept my fuzz' from that litter he is a dream and a nice big rex boy now.

[kristen]

Everyone who buys rats from us are very welcome to take their new pets to the vets and find out if they are what age we say they are.
I can assure you they will be at the very least 6 weeks as we dont sell them until they reach this age.

[mattm]

I'm sorry to say that your average vet could not easily give you an accurate age for a baby rat.

[Minerva]

Originally Posted by mattm

I'm sorry to say that your average vet could not easily give you an accurate age for a baby rat.

Thats true, its amazing how little training vets get on rats

[KathyM]

My old vet couldn't even tell you the gender lol, my new one is much better but vets are vets, they don't get much training in small animals at all unless they take a particular interest in them and get info off their own back.

[Minerva]

I know, i remember talking to my vet about it, £400 a day to go on a specific rat course

Im tempted to pester his boss to let him, due to all the rats i take in there!

[saxon]

Yes vets can be pretty dumb when rats are concerned.
In 2008 I had to rush my hairless doe, Billie, to the vet as she was having difficulty delivering a litter.

It wasnt' my regular 'rat' vet and I had explained the issue on the phone.
When I got there the vet thought I had brought her in as she had a 'skin condition' even though she was the size of a house and obviously trying to push. Trying to tell them she was meant to have no hair was a waste of time.
In the end it took me 30 minutes to convince them to try a c-section and by that time it was too late. I lost both Bille and her litter.
After she died, whilst the were operating, they came back out to ask if they should try to save the litter. I was livid. If they had just got on with it they might have managed to save a few but they p'd around so much it was again too late.
Afterwards they just said " well you'd never be able to hand rear a litter of newborn rats" to which I replied I wouldnt' have to as I had another doe with a day old litter at home.
According to the vet you cannot under any circumstances foster rat kitts to another doe they will 100% eat both litters.
Thick or what.

I made a complaint and they thought I should be happy with them only charging me £6.50 for the anaesthetic and not charge me for th eoperation.

I use this vet for my horses and they are fantatic with them but I told them I'd never go back with anything small.

This is why I now only use hairless carriers to breed my hairless lines. I no longer run the line Billie came from either just in case someone decided to breed a doe. She had managed to give birth to one litter perfectly fine but not the second litter.

[Blonde24]

Rosie75.......

How is your little rattie? I saw your post when i was searching for kkpets through google, as i bought a pair of boy rats from them in november too! I'm thinking they may be from the same litter. When i saw your post i just had to find out how your rat is, i hope he is better now and doing well.
My two boys have had some health problems but seem to be ok, they've had a lot of sniffles and the vet put them on antibiotics. They are better now than they were, they have such wicked little personalities, i love em! I'd hate to think one of thier possible siblings was so poorly.

Please reply to this and let me know how he is now.

Thanks