beauty snakes

[boopinter]

hi out there,have not been on here for a while but since last time have aquired a taiwanese beauty snake.feeding well,handling well but need some help to get the correct set up as there is not much imformation on housing.tall glass/wooden viv or terranium (exo-terra) or normal viv?heating and humidity?just a little unsure and want to get it right.any help out there in snake land?she is around 2 feet just now and growing fast.hope you can help

[Poppy Dog]

Hi, I cant give any advice sorry. But I will be keeping an interested eye on your thread as I may have my first Beauty Snake next week. I have looked at two babies today and they were gorgeous but were both girls and I really want a boy first. I am looking at an adult male next week.

Anyway good luck hope you get some info, It will be useful for us both

Regards
Rachel

[Windy]

The Ratsnake Foundation have an extensive caresheet for Taiwan Beauty Snakes which covers the following:

A Brief Taxonomic History, Natural History, Captive Origins, Temperament, Diet, Sloughing, Vivarium Size for hatchlings, sub adults and adults, Temperature & Humidity, Substrate, Vivarium Decor, Brumation, Breeding, Incubation, Quarantine, Morphs, Special notes & References & Further Reading

Unfortunately its only available for full members (subscription is £8 per year) but maybe worth considering ???

[maddragon29]

Originally Posted by boopinter

hi out there,have not been on here for a while but since last time have aquired a taiwanese beauty snake.feeding well,handling well but need some help to get the correct set up as there is not much imformation on housing.tall glass/wooden viv or terranium (exo-terra) or normal viv? - normal viv, we used our tai to an arboreal and we're going to move her back out as she doesn't use the height.


heating and humidity? Found our tai likes to hide under her water bowl where its always nice and humid, so we've added moss to the cocofibre substrate and increased the humidity slightly and she's seeming to love her humid corner.

We struggled to find exact care sheets with heating so we've set her hot end to a moderate 92oC and her cool ends at 85oC. Thought of this when looking at heating for other animals that come from the same area, they are not desert animals. She seems quite happy, never misses a feed, and is an absolutely beautiful snake to handle... my friendliest =] so curious too!

just a little unsure and want to get it right.any help out there in snake land?she is around 2 feet just now and growing fast.hope you can help

Good luck with her =] you'll love her to bits i'm sure. Wait till she's an 8ft monster.
I'm sure someone will be along to correct me if i'm wrong about anything here, as said we just had to play about and see what made her happiest.

[Jack W]

I don't have any advice, but will also keep an eye on this thread as I am very tempted to get a tai beauty, gorgeous snakes!

[Windy]

maddragon29 advised:
hot end to a moderate 92oC and her cool ends at 85oC.

I'm guessing you mean 92F - 85F ? this is much too hot for them, no wonder shes under the water bowl trying to escape the heat. The hottest temperature that Taiwan ever reaches is 82.2F (27.6C) - even without a caresheet, a guide to temps can be found by researching the area they come from.
You should be aiming for a thermal gradient of 82F / 28C hot end falling to 77F / 25C at the cooler end - with a relative humidity of 60-70%. Achieved by daily spraying and the addition of a large water bowl, a humid hide is also benefical and makes them feel more comfortable especially when they are approaching a slough.

[coxy1130]

maddragon29 advised:
hot end to a moderate 92oC and her cool ends at 85oC.

I think this may be the instructions for slow cooking a beauty snake lol.

Out of interest how relevant will this information be to the husbandry for the subspecies of this snake constantly trying to dredge up info for my Cave Dwelling Ratsnake, nightmare to get good info though.

[maddragon29]

Woops i meant oF.. and thanks for that guys, decreased the temps now

As said she has relatively high humidity.

[Windy]

Originally Posted by coxy1130

I think this may be the instructions for slow cooking a beauty snake lol.

Out of interest how relevant will this information be to the husbandry for the subspecies of this snake constantly trying to dredge up info for my Cave Dwelling Ratsnake, nightmare to get good info though.

Temperatures would be the same - but humidity is slightly higher (70-90%) so the addition of a nice humid hide is a must - also they don't appreciate bright light so a nice dimly lid enclosure.

Sue x

[Windy]

Originally Posted by maddragon29

Woops i meant oF.. and thanks for that guys, decreased the temps now

As said she has relatively high humidity.

I'm sure she will be a lot happier now and not hide so much under her water bowl, you'll probably find that she will now make good use of the arboreal viv as they do like to climb.

Sue x