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Old 22-01-2009, 05:27 PM
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how hot does it feel to touch? because lets be honest... you would expect higher temperatures than that off a 60watt heat mat.
Imagine a 60watt bulb. Very hot to the touch, but not immediate burning heat. Now imagine that bulb, which is just 2.5 inches in diameter, spread over four square foot, the heat becomes very weak indeed.
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Old 22-01-2009, 05:29 PM
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it bloody was covered. the half i was measuring was covered. thats why i showed you 3 pages that i folded to make 6. i was taking the temp on the paper.
Sorry, your right, it was covered. But that doesn't make any difference. You could have heated the thermometer up before hand and then taken the pictures.

My own experiment - just performed - listed above, is enough data to back up my argument, but then of course you have to take my word of the results which you probably won't.
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well the next set of pics





and somebody telling us that their thermometer registered x is even less reliable.

plus to me it looks more like an infra red, i could be wrong but i'm not sure how you can heat one up.
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I'll take video of doing spot readings - point, click, where the thermometer readout is always visible in the video screen. Heat mat, refrigerator, my hand, that sort of thing.

You obviously don't understand how an infrared thermometer works - it can't be "heated up beforehand" because it takes an INSTANT reading of what it's pointed at.
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Sorry, your right, it was covered. But that doesn't make any difference. You could have heated the thermometer up before hand and then taken the pictures.

My own experiment - just performed - listed above, is enough data to back up my argument, but then of course you have to take my word of the results which you probably won't.
tell you what, come for your tea and watch me do it again. i have no need to preheat a therm. the mat was hot enough coming through the paper!!!! how the hell do you preheat a red dot!!!!
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Guys the actual wording in the Habistat manual (which you haven't addressed) is far more supportive of my argument than yours. And who should people listen to? A reptile appliance specialist company, or some stubborn veterans on a forum?
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i think maureen had spoken to the boss of that company and he had agreed to alter the wording after he saw her pictures.
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he did indeedy.. the thread is still on page one.
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Guys the actual wording in the Habistat manual (which you haven't addressed) is far more supportive of my argument than yours. And who should people listen to? A reptile appliance specialist company, or some stubborn veterans on a forum?
that describes you perfectly.
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Ahh ok, I can see there is no putting an old head on young shoulders.

Guess the phrase 'You can take a horse to water, but you can't make him drink' is spot on with you guys.
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