to settle an argument - your views.

[loxocemus]

i was asked to explain external probe placement and pad setup for someone wanting to use a similar setup.


ed

Originally Posted by C4VEMAN-5AM

No if you read back someone wanted to know what the euthansia thread was. I think the thermostat issue is over now everyones talking about euthansia.
I dont know what that guys doing though posting so many crap pics


Frankly i hold my views on anything.

[elliot ness]

Originally Posted by C4VEMAN-5AM

Well your wrong then cause im posting the link to the other issue thats on here and thats the euthansia thread.

So I am wrong about the thread being about thermostats?
It is bad manners to start another debate about a different subject in a thread.
You should start another thread
Paul

[rachel132002]

*sigh* Ed & Steve if you two could be on the same side of the fence things would be wonderful eh?!

I'm not gettin involved because i know you're both intelligent guys and Ed...a corn and garter...lol underplaying it a bit eh? Funny lookin corn in that box too...

Also my views on the actual topic of mats in vivs.

in my opinion mats have no business inside a vivarium, they are made for indirect thermal contact radiated heating so are often referred to as undertank heaters for a reason, i've seen many a problem with snakes when mats are in vivs even statted.

As for the use of a stat, reptiles need certain temperatures without a thermostat you cannot control those temperatures so you NEED a stat i once put a 6x11 mat under a 2ft WOODEN viv yes UNDER and without a stat just to see (nothing in the viv btw) and the floor hit 110 INSIDE the viv sooo....

I also never attach stat probes to the mats but just off so i can dial the temp in better as i often find if i want a mat at 92 if i stick the probe on mat, dial in at 92 it only hits 88ish so i place my probe then fiddle with the dial and callibrate it with a digital thermometer which i also calibrate every few months too.

Rach

[loxocemus]

sorry rachel, he brings out the child in me

just a slight understatement, i had a kingsnake once.

ed

Originally Posted by rachel132002

*sigh* Ed & Steve if you two could be on the same side of the fence things would be wonderful eh?!

I'm not gettin involved because i know you're both intelligent guys and Ed...a corn and garter...lol underplaying it a bit eh? Funny lookin corn in that box too...

Also my views on the actual topic of mats in vivs.

in my opinion mats have no business inside a vivarium, they are made for indirect thermal contact radiated heating so are often referred to as undertank heaters for a reason, i've seen many a problem with snakes when mats are in vivs even statted.

As for the use of a stat, reptiles need certain temperatures without a thermostat you cannot control those temperatures so you NEED a stat i once put a 6x11 mat under a 2ft WOODEN viv yes UNDER and without a stat just to see (nothing in the viv btw) and the floor hit 110 INSIDE the viv sooo....

I also never attach stat probes to the mats but just off so i can dial the temp in better as i often find if i want a mat at 92 if i stick the probe on mat, dial in at 92 it only hits 88ish so i place my probe then fiddle with the dial and callibrate it with a digital thermometer which i also calibrate every few months too.

Rach

[C4VEMAN-5AM]

Originally Posted by spit051261

So I am wrong about the thread being about thermostats?
It is bad manners to start another debate about a different subject in a thread.
You should start another thread
Paul

Lol you are arguing about this by the way.

And most people have said stuff about thermosats and were talking about euthansia including you aswell. After all it is open discussion and euthansia was brought in before i even mentioned it.

So i was just helping them because they may have not read the link. And its one link post, i think you need to get that anger issue under control mister

[ratboy]

Originally Posted by rachel132002

*sigh* Ed & Steve if you two could be on the same side of the fence things would be wonderful eh?!

I don't take kindly to people I do not know and who know nothing about me dragging my name through the mud with dumb assumptions and insinuations Rach.

Never have and never will. Read the euthanasia thread, the "man" is just plain rude.

ooooo look. I have a quote key too.

[rachel132002]

Originally Posted by loxocemus

sorry rachel, he brings out the child in me

just a slight understatement, i had a kingsnake once.

ed

I think you have the same effect *bashes both your heads together* and you Steve ignoring me today ppfffff lol.

Ed, i'm sure it was a lovely kingsnake too...

Just read the stuff on heat variation i have a 7 tier rack for my royals and i find by heating the top 4 levels with a stat and probe placed on level 3 (3rd down) and a stat on bottom 3 with stat on 2nd level i have temps nigh on cracked now i think it varies 2-3 degrees throughout the whole rack but still well within parameters.

Rach

[ratboy]

Originally Posted by rachel132002

I think you have the same effect *bashes both your heads together* and you Steve ignoring me today ppfffff lol.

I didn't see you !!! Where were you hun ?

[rachel132002]

Originally Posted by ratboy

I don't take kindly to people I do not know and who know nothing about me dragging my name through the mud with dumb assumptions and insinuations Rach.

Never have and never will. Read the euthanasia thread, the "man" is just plain rude.

ooooo look. I have a quote key too.

Yeah i read it Steve and yeaah like i say *keeps out* i just meant with the combined knowledge experience you both have if it were a topic agreed on and the personal insults were left aside some really good stuff would come out of it.

Like i say i've seen it, read it, don't agree with it but it's nowt to do with me so don't think i'm in disagreement with you at all i'm just erm agreeing to disagree with the whole thing if that makes sense? I think we've known each other long enough now lol...*hides*

[rachel132002]

Originally Posted by ratboy

I didn't see you !!! Where were you hun ?

Opposite penfolds table, it's cuz you were too busy eyeing up ally with her long legs on show haha...anyway to the point STAT YOUR MATS PEOPLE STAT YOUR MATS!