to settle an argument - your views.

[Ssthisto]

Out of curiosity, Caveman... have you ever measured the actual surface temperature of the mat you're using, right on the mat, then on the floor of the cage, then on the substrate above the mat?

I did exactly this with one of my mats recently, using an infrared thermometer:
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[ratboy]

ALL heat mats should be on stats.

All those saying they are not neccessary, Just think how hot the viv would have been in the recent heat wave if the heat mat is blasting out even more unregulated heat.

A stat on the other hand would, of course, have turned them off.

[elliot ness]

Originally Posted by C4VEMAN-5AM

look what this is is that where i went to get my snake, none were on thermostats and none had burns, were ill or whatever.

they are experienced reptile keepers and have never had any problems with heatmatt burns, so i guess i dont think they need one.

none ever got higher than the basking tempretures.

i can see how they could help.

any chance of translating this for me please.....seriously

[scotty123]

Originally Posted by C4VEMAN-5AM

look what this is is that where i went to get my snake, none were on thermostats and none had burns, were ill or whatever.

they are experienced reptile keepers and have never had any problems with heatmatt burns, so i guess i dont think they need one.

none ever got higher than the basking tempretures.

i can see how they could help.

im just curious to hear others views.

in another thread you said you KNOW they dont need need them,

i wanted to find out for myself thanks.

[C4VEMAN-5AM]

Originally Posted by spit051261

any chance of translating this for me please.....seriously

ahh look we were arguing on another thread about it.

but im 16 and they assured me that everything will be fine. its not like theres no substrate on the glass or anything.

[C4VEMAN-5AM]

Originally Posted by scotty123

im just curious to hear others views.

in another thread you said you KNOW they dont need need them,

i wanted to find out for myself thanks.

yeah well like i said im they seemed to know more about rep's than you, and told me a stat isnt neccesary, so you cant blame me for beliving them.

[Ssthisto]

Originally Posted by C4VEMAN-5AM

ahh look we were arguing on another thread about it.

but im 16 and they assured me that everything will be fine. its not like theres no substrate on the glass or anything.

If I say the words "thermal blocking" do you know what that means?

For that matter, if I say "your snake burrows, and may wind up on the glass right on top of the mat with no substrate between him and the glass" are you willing to accept this could be true?

[elliot ness]

if you don't use a stat with any heat source....mats including....you are putting your snake at risk....that simple really
and who the hell gave you that information about not needing a stat?
paul

[C4VEMAN-5AM]

Originally Posted by Ssthisto

If I say the words "thermal blocking" do you know what that means?

For that matter, if I say "your snake burrows, and may wind up on the glass right on top of the mat with no substrate between him and the glass" are you willing to accept this could be true?

yeah i know what you mean, but my snake has only burrowed once over the matt and he's fine know.

he's on aspen.

just to clear this out i do have a stat now.

[ratboy]

Originally Posted by scotty123

im just curious to hear others views.

in another thread you said you KNOW they dont need need them,

i wanted to find out for myself thanks.

Good plan