to settle an argument - your views.

[C4VEMAN-5AM]

Originally Posted by ross

i aint even going to take the bait and argue with you mate all im saying is someone asked a question and now its been answered over and over again with the same responce so why keep this thread going by argueing,its pointless,if your going to argue do it in private through pms

I was apologising about the link.

Its ony one thread anyway people dont have to click it.

[ross]

yeah i know mate sorry that wasnt meant for you just then

[elliot ness]

it was meant for me
and thanks again

[C4VEMAN-5AM]

Originally Posted by ross

yeah i know mate sorry that wasnt meant for you just then

Alright thanks

[Ssthisto]

Originally Posted by The_Real_Moreliaman

yes youd be right if the user didnt read the instructions and use common sence...just like driving a bus or car with no lessons or experince

Ok, here is a summary of how my Ultratherm heat mat instructions tell me to set it up if I am using a faunarium or some similar "small plastic tank" setup:

Position the mat to cover one half to two thirds of the bottom of the tank.
The mat can be used inside or outside the tank.
Ensure the substrate is less than 1cm deep.
Put 6mm-thick polystyrene on the other side of the mat to insulate it so that all the heat goes upwards into the tank.
If I have concerns about overheating, fit a suitable thermostat.

You bet your bippy I'd have concerns about overheating at that point!

(Oh, and it says that if you're using a wooden viv, the mat MUST be put inside the viv to avoid thermal blocking)

[bosshogg]

cant be bothered to read all 25 pages but simple answer yes.. I know people have used them without but why take the risk for the sake of a thermostat!

[elliot ness]

Originally Posted by The_Real_Moreliaman

Yes..100% right...Heatmatts should never be inside the viv....and yes, check temps before any herp/animal is put inside...but then what would i know with all these overnight experts on here !

Who said dont use a stat and you wont make many friends on here...pffft....who gives a shit...ive got enough friends already thanks.

look what this expert with 25 years experience is saying.....no heat mats inside a viv....mmmmm that is not what the makers are saying
am beginning to wonder if caveman and this "expert with 25 years experience" are the same person
paul

[C4VEMAN-5AM]

Originally Posted by spit051261

look what this expert with 25 years experience is saying.....no heat mats inside a viv....mmmmm that is not what the makers are saying
am beginning to wonder if caveman and this "expert with 25 years experience" are the same person
paul

When did i say never put a heat matt in the viv, i never once did mate.

[elliot ness]

Originally Posted by C4VEMAN-5AM

When did i say never put a heat matt in the viv, i never once did mate.

I apologise mate.....it was a dig at the expert with 25 years experience....not you.
paul

[ratboy]

Originally Posted by spit051261

look what this expert with 25 years experience is saying.....no heat mats inside a viv....mmmmm that is not what the makers are saying
am beginning to wonder if caveman and this "expert with 25 years experience" are the same person
paul

Despite what the makers say, there are plenty of examples of heavy bodied snakes laying directly on heat mats and getting seriously burned from them through thermal blocking. If the makers tell you not to put them under the viv ( which they do ) then you are not going to want a heavy 10 foot Boa or an even heavier python laying on one either are you ?