Kenyan Sand Boa Taxonomy - Settle an argument

[oakelm]

OK me and my brother who also keeps snakes cant agree so please someone settle this argument.

Kenyan Sand Boa, real taxonomy name is it
Gongylophis colubrinus loveridgei
Or
Eryx colubrinus loveridgei

See to me it used to be Eryx but was then reclassified as Gongylophis but my brother seems to think it is the other way round and I swear its not because I thought the Eryx was classified first and the Gongylophis a later addition to the tree.

Need a third party to settle it please.

Thanks in advance.

[a-jones1324]

i believe YOUR right

[B&WTegu&Beardies]

I've seen a lot of people on here say Eryx.

[oakelm]

Its so confusing the more I look at it because you have classification from 1923 then in 1991 and 1995 all saying different things but I think 1995 Tokar said Gongylophis and that is the most recent I have found,but has it been reclassified back to eryx since??

[knotism037]

waits for wildlife warrior

[oakelm]

Originally Posted by knotism037

waits for wildlife warrior

He must have gone on strike for the evening

[cabrera]

I dont know but I know a man who does lol go ask WLW think he has about 70 of the little buggers where as I only have two

[wildlifewarrior]

Originally Posted by oakelm

He must have gone on strike for the evening

nah ive just finshed feeding about 30 baby geckos actually

personally i go agreeing with you.

there all linked together with the erycinae subfamily but gongylophis was created to catagorise kenyans,rough scales and muellers in this genus.
while this happened a extra speices was also added to the g.conicus which was the rufescens...these are major hard to get and a pure black kenyan sub speices.....a few other eryx subs were removed in the process and changed to locales insted

[oakelm]

Originally Posted by wildlifewarrior

nah ive just finshed feeding about 30 baby geckos actually

personally i go agreeing with you.

there all linked together with the erycinae subfamily but gongylophis was created to catagorise kenyans,rough scales and muellers in this genus.
while this happened a extra speices was also added to the g.conicus which was the rufescens...these are major hard to get and a pure black kenyan sub speices.....a few other eryx subs were removed in the process and changed to locales insted

Only just checked this thread again, but thankyou I knew I wasnt going mad, well not yet anyway.

[wildlifewarrior]

Originally Posted by oakelm

Only just checked this thread again, but thankyou I knew I wasnt going mad, well not yet anyway.

no worries...am rather sad to actually know all that

a good thing to buy which you might find interesting.

Buy issue number 34 of reptilia.
It has a 22 page article in it writen by the master of sand boas chris jones.
It has indepth infomation on all the speices of sand boas....and is a brillant read, only about £3 aswell