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Old 07-11-2009, 11:08 AM
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I plan to get a Boa Constrictor
I would eventually want a large viv 5ft or whichever is appropriate for a large famale boa
The house I have now is probably not big enough to house that unless I kick the wife out or sell a child

It is for sale and the next house will have a room for snakes etc for me

If I bought a baby and kept it in 3ft viv which I have space for and am about to win on ebay would that do a Boa without being detrimental to its health for next 18 months ? I only ask as I know some fishes heal;th can be compromised if raised in quarters too small and their growth stunted. I want a Boa that can eventually reach its full potential

Also if it gets to point where it needs bigger viv and I haven;t moved I wouldbe able to squeeze on in once I have him and the mrs has no say!!!

Cheers for any advice

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Old 07-11-2009, 11:28 AM
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No a boas growth will not be stunted if kept in a smaller viv..

If you got a baby boa though it should be ok in a 3 ft for 18 month depeding on its growth rate ( boas can very in growth from one to another)
and if the boa did grow faster than you hoped for you could alway get another 3 foot viv and put it on top of the other one ( i assume you have space to go up :O)
and cut a hole in them to connect them both togther to make a multi story viv for the boa until it gets its perminant home when you move..
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Old 07-11-2009, 11:40 AM
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I plan to get a Boa Constrictor
I would eventually want a large viv 5ft or whichever is appropriate for a large famale boa
The house I have now is probably not big enough to house that unless I kick the wife out or sell a child

It is for sale and the next house will have a room for snakes etc for me

If I bought a baby and kept it in 3ft viv which I have space for and am about to win on ebay would that do a Boa without being detrimental to its health for next 18 months ? I only ask as I know some fishes heal;th can be compromised if raised in quarters too small and their growth stunted. I want a Boa that can eventually reach its full potential

Also if it gets to point where it needs bigger viv and I haven;t moved I wouldbe able to squeeze on in once I have him and the mrs has no say!!!

Cheers for any advice

Simon
Best option for a baby boa is a RUB. Placing a hatchling in a 3foot viv could well just stress the little guy out. Snakes prefer smaller spaces. Move the viv/tub size up as the snake grows...rather than placing a small snake in a comparitively large space.

And no....a smalller viv/cage won't stunt it's growth...that's fish logic. It would however, end up with a cramped snake if it out grows the space.

Bear in mind that a female boa *can* potentially reach 12foot...so you may need a viv a little larger than 5 x 2 x 2 depending on the individual.

Again...it completely depends on the individual as to whether a boa would out grow a 3foot viv in 18months...although it should generally be fine.

It all depends on genetics...whether the snake is predisposed to growing larger than average...how often you feed and the size of the prey etc etc...Don't underfeed in an attempt to keep it smaller.

You may be better of with a dwarf BCI or just a male, if size is a concern.

Couldn't work out what you were trying to ask/say in the last sentence which I have underlined??

If you have any concerns that you won't be moving as soon as you think...don't go for a snake which you potentially may not be able to house sufficiently as an adult...even if it's just temporary.
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Old 07-11-2009, 11:55 AM
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i currently keep all my boas in RUBs...they are 09 hatchlings lol.

i have 2 that were kept together a male and a female and they love their climbing so when they outgrown their RUB i got them a 4ft tall x 3ft wide viv.
another is in a 45litre RUB as he is a lot bogger than the others and has plenty of space and another is weeny and in a 15ltr terarrium. and is quite happy there.
they are out everyday, apart from feeding days and sheds obviously, so they get enough exercise and seem to only use their RUBs to chill, eat and shed lol

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Old 07-11-2009, 11:57 AM
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Best option for a baby boa is a RUB. Placing a hatchling in a 3foot viv could well just stress the little guy out. Snakes prefer smaller spaces. Move the viv/tub size up as the snake grows...rather than placing a small snake in a comparitively large space.

And no....a smalller viv/cage won't stunt it's growth...that's fish logic. It would however, end up with a cramped snake if it out grows the space.

Bear in mind that a female boa *can* potentially reach 12foot...so you may need a viv a little larger than 5 x 2 x 2 depending on the individual.

Again...it completely depends on the individual as to whether a boa would out grow a 3foot viv in 18months...although it should generally be fine.

It all depends on genetics...whether the snake is predisposed to growing larger than average...how often you feed and the size of the prey etc etc...Don't underfeed in an attempt to keep it smaller.

You may be better of with a dwarf BCI or just a male, if size is a concern.

Couldn't work out what you were trying to ask/say in the last sentence which I have underlined??

If you have any concerns that you won't be moving as soon as you think...don't go for a snake which you potentially may not be able to house sufficiently as an adult...even if it's just temporary.
thats what i did...started out with just looking for a male in case my next house would be too small...then ent up with 3 males and 1 female.
but i know how big my next house is and that there is enough room for them as adults.
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Best option for a baby boa is a RUB. Placing a hatchling in a 3foot viv could well just stress the little guy out. Snakes prefer smaller spaces. Move the viv/tub size up as the snake grows...rather than placing a small snake in a comparitively large space.

And no....a smalller viv/cage won't stunt it's growth...that's fish logic. It would however, end up with a cramped snake if it out grows the space.

Bear in mind that a female boa *can* potentially reach 12foot...so you may need a viv a little larger than 5 x 2 x 2 depending on the individual.

Again...it completely depends on the individual as to whether a boa would out grow a 3foot viv in 18months...although it should generally be fine.

It all depends on genetics...whether the snake is predisposed to growing larger than average...how often you feed and the size of the prey etc etc...Don't underfeed in an attempt to keep it smaller.

You may be better of with a dwarf BCI or just a male, if size is a concern.

Couldn't work out what you were trying to ask/say in the last sentence which I have underlined??

If you have any concerns that you won't be moving as soon as you think...don't go for a snake which you potentially may not be able to house sufficiently as an adult...even if it's just temporary.
cheers for the reponses

Its actually a larger boa I;m after as a long term pet and he would be housed appropriately,just as a reptile beginner I;m still getting used to the basics as fa as housing are concerned

the underlined sentence just meant that once I already had the boa and if I hadn't moved I;d make space for the bigger viv

The house we are getting next is going to be an old house with more rooms than this newer house we have now which will have more space for the kids an office for the wife and a room for snakes and me lol

Some great info here thanks guys I;m clearer now as to my plans for a boa!!
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Best option for a baby boa is a RUB. Placing a hatchling in a 3foot viv could well just stress the little guy out. Snakes prefer smaller spaces. Move the viv/tub size up as the snake grows...rather than placing a small snake in a comparitively large space.

And no....a smalller viv/cage won't stunt it's growth...that's fish logic. It would however, end up with a cramped snake if it out grows the space.

Bear in mind that a female boa *can* potentially reach 12foot...so you may need a viv a little larger than 5 x 2 x 2 depending on the individual.

Again...it completely depends on the individual as to whether a boa would out grow a 3foot viv in 18months...although it should generally be fine.

It all depends on genetics...whether the snake is predisposed to growing larger than average...how often you feed and the size of the prey etc etc...Don't underfeed in an attempt to keep it smaller.

You may be better of with a dwarf BCI or just a male, if size is a concern.

Couldn't work out what you were trying to ask/say in the last sentence which I have underlined??

If you have any concerns that you won't be moving as soon as you think...don't go for a snake which you potentially may not be able to house sufficiently as an adult...even if it's just temporary.
Excellent advice.
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Old 09-11-2009, 04:50 AM
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no, snakes will continue to grow despite thier enclosure and continually throughout thier lives.

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I plan to get a Boa Constrictor
I would eventually want a large viv 5ft or whichever is appropriate for a large famale boa
The house I have now is probably not big enough to house that unless I kick the wife out or sell a child

It is for sale and the next house will have a room for snakes etc for me

If I bought a baby and kept it in 3ft viv which I have space for and am about to win on ebay would that do a Boa without being detrimental to its health for next 18 months ? I only ask as I know some fishes heal;th can be compromised if raised in quarters too small and their growth stunted. I want a Boa that can eventually reach its full potential

Also if it gets to point where it needs bigger viv and I haven;t moved I wouldbe able to squeeze on in once I have him and the mrs has no say!!!

Cheers for any advice

Simon
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Old 09-11-2009, 10:03 AM
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I've got a 6x2x2 viv for my female boa when she reaches the right size to put her in. My male on the other hand will have a 4x2x2 viv once he's grown up.

Baby boas are best off in rubs and then a 2ft viv like I had mine when they were 5-6 months old. Pandora (my female) is now living in a 3ft viv and she's 10 months old and already just over 3ft long.

It really depends on the individual. To give you an idea Pandora grew 10" in just 8 weeks!. Where as my male is only 6 months old and 23" long (I know cos he's a male).

Your know for yourself when they need to be moved a size up. Pandora has only been in a 3ft viv for about 6 weeks and she's had 2 sheds and it won't be long before I have to move her again as her growth rate is so speedy!.
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I've got a 6x2x2 viv for my female boa when she reaches the right size to put her in. My male on the other hand will have a 4x2x2 viv once he's grown up.

Baby boas are best off in rubs and then a 2ft viv like I had mine when they were 5-6 months old. Pandora (my female) is now living in a 3ft viv and she's 10 months old and already just over 3ft long.

It really depends on the individual. To give you an idea Pandora grew 10" in just 8 weeks!. Where as my male is only 6 months old and 23" long (I know cos he's a male).

Your know for yourself when they need to be moved a size up. Pandora has only been in a 3ft viv for about 6 weeks and she's had 2 sheds and it won't be long before I have to move her again as her growth rate is so speedy!.
fantastic cheers for that

I got her yesterday shes a May 09 female, I haven;t measured her but I;d guess at 15 inches long, she feels so light compared to my royal but I love her to bits already!! lol

shes in a 24 litre rub for now
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