Royal morph breeding

[Rain]

Originally Posted by Pinwallace

So, do you plan on doing any "spidering" this winter ? I bet you have a few options to choose from.
Im hoping my bee will be ready for the end of next year.

well, if every female takes and lays and odds favor us, we could have any of the following with spider genes;
Spider, spinner, honeybee, cinnabee, bumblebee, pewterbee, ghost cinnabee, spinner blast, mojavebee, pastavebee, lesserbee, queenbee, kingbee, killerbee, spider het ghost and a couple of others
But realisticly, given the chances of EVERY female becoming gravid, and EVERY odd being made, I'm not expecting even 1/4 of that list.

[alan1]

Originally Posted by Rain

well, if every female takes and lays and odds favor us, we could have any of the following with spider genes;
Spider, spinner, honeybee, cinnabee, bumblebee, pewterbee, ghost cinnabee, spinner blast, mojavebee, pastavebee, lesserbee, queenbee, kingbee, killerbee, spider het ghost and a couple of others
But realisticly, given the chances of EVERY female becoming gravid, and EVERY odd being made, I'm not expecting even 1/4 of that list.

kingbee !?!
is it the same as a killer queenbee ??? (spider pastel pastel lesser)
or is it called a kingbee now ?

[bretts balls]

Originally Posted by Rain

well, if every female takes and lays and odds favor us, we could have any of the following with spider genes;
Spider, spinner, honeybee, cinnabee, bumblebee, pewterbee, ghost cinnabee, spinner blast, mojavebee, pastavebee, lesserbee, queenbee, kingbee, killerbee, spider het ghost and a couple of others
But realisticly, given the chances of EVERY female becoming gravid, and EVERY odd being made, I'm not expecting even 1/4 of that list.

[malky201]

Will be doing a lot more research first anyway, just trying to get an idea of what produces what

[Rain]

Originally Posted by alan1

kingbee !?!
is it the same as a killer queenbee ??? (spider pastel pastel lesser)
or is it called a kingbee now ?

well, it's what I ment, I've been refering to it as a king bee for a while and its just stuck with me. I do mean a super pastel lesser bee

[Pinwallace]

Originally Posted by Rain

well, if every female takes and lays and odds favor us, we could have any of the following with spider genes;
Spider, spinner, honeybee, cinnabee, bumblebee, pewterbee, ghost cinnabee, spinner blast, mojavebee, pastavebee, lesserbee, queenbee, kingbee, killerbee, spider het ghost and a couple of others
But realisticly, given the chances of EVERY female becoming gravid, and EVERY odd being made, I'm not expecting even 1/4 of that list.

Thats an impressive list of potentials, I hope for your sake the ball gods play ball and if I start saving yesterday, who knows .... Im sure I have room for a little female queenbee.

[vazzza]

Sorry, don't want to hi-jack the thread but didn't think this was worth starting a new one for.

How do i go about making an axanthic killer bee. I really think they are one of the best looking morphs but will never have £6k to spend on a snakey. Is it as simple as axanthic x bumblebee? I guess not otherwise the £6k price tag wouldn't be justified...

Cheers

[rachel132002]

It is in longterms an:

Axanthic Super Pastel Spider

So if you do Bee x Axan you'll get in the best world a Bee 100% het axanthic or better still 2 then breed those together or breed the bee het to a pastel axan or to a pastel het axan.

[vazzza]

I see, recessive gene's involved so you have to get your inbreed on. Cool. Now I understand why its worth £6k, not an easy task!

[Rain]

Originally Posted by vazzza

I see, recessive gene's involved so you have to get your inbreed on. Cool. Now I understand why its worth £6k, not an easy task!

Well, you dont HAVE to inbreed, but then you'd need atleast 2 Axanthics, a pastel and a bumblebee ideally.

Quickest way from base morphs;
Bumblebee x axanthic.
Pastel het axanthic x bumblebee het axanthic.
But odds are pretty slim.

Quickest way (at best odds other than using an AXKB as part of the breeding) is;
Axanthic bumblebee x super pastel axanthic.

As for the price, the only one NERD sold this year was a female at $10k, which is about £6k. However, if one was produced in the UK it'd prob be worth more, plus, IMO that was VERY cheap.