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Old 18-12-2009, 11:06 PM
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hello guys. i have a king snake in my home which ive had for about 2 years, and as its winter the temperature is in the minus celsius range outside. i have a heat mat in the vivarium on one side and the thermostat reads 20 degrees C on that side but around 10C on the other. i think its too cold for him on that side so i have put a hot water bottle in thier wrapped in a towel. (I dont use boiling water) even so he always seems to stay on the cold side and when i come to feed him he hisses and tries to strike but doesnt take the mouse. hes not shedding, and i was just wondering wheter this is normal behaviour?

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Old 18-12-2009, 11:09 PM
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Probably the time of year. They don't feed often this time of year so will see a mouse as more of a threat than food especialy if your temps realy are that low if so would hold off feeding anyway as he will not be able to digest it properly. What are you measuring the temps with?
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Old 18-12-2009, 11:13 PM
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as above , what u measuring temps with ?

u sat stat reads 20c but a stat doesnt read anything it does roughly what u tell it , a thermomter reads the temps - preferably a didital one or even better an infra red one

if those temps r right then the snake is way too cold , im surprised u can stand it lol
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Old 18-12-2009, 11:35 PM
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oh sorry i meant the thermometer reads around 20-22C depending on the temparature outside.
i have a habistat thermostat and heat mat even though its set to max it seems to only heat up to around 20C.
I measure with a digital thermometer with the sensor on the inside of the viv and the readout on the outside.
I am getting worried that's why Ive resorted to diy methods of heating.
there's no chance of him coming to any serious harm with temps this low are there?
He fed fine about 2 weeks ago, and hes never had a regurgitation.
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Old 18-12-2009, 11:39 PM
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The tempeture reading should be taken directly on the heatmat with some slight presure in the probe as this is what a snake would do on its belly. You will either need more efficient heating or to hold off of food untill the temps rise again when did he last feed?
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Old 18-12-2009, 11:50 PM
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yeah that's how i have the probe set up. it's always in contact with the heat mat.
he fed about 2 weeks ago with no problems, except for today with the hissing and striking, hes a very docile snake aswell, never been aggresive.
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oh sorry i meant the thermometer reads around 20-22C depending on the temparature outside.
i have a habistat thermostat and heat mat even though its set to max it seems to only heat up to around 20C.
I measure with a digital thermometer with the sensor on the inside of the viv and the readout on the outside.
I am getting worried that's why Ive resorted to diy methods of heating.
there's no chance of him coming to any serious harm with temps this low are there?
He fed fine about 2 weeks ago, and hes never had a regurgitation.

well ur digital thermometer should fine
im still worried about u saying that it reads 20-22 depending on outside temp - thats shouldnt have anything to do with it

make sure the probes for the stat and thermometer are on warm side (roughly where snake likes to go)
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It is to cold him. I keep my king snakes at around 80 degrees F. I have prairie kings and mine fast at this time of year. I offer them a small mouse about once every 2 to 3 weeks and if they do not feed I do not worry to much providing the weight does not start to drop off them suddenly. The males fast because it is coming up to breeding season and they have the girls on their mind and not food.
Warm him up and he may be less grumpy too.

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Could you not buy a 50ltr RUB to keep him in for the winter? The temps will be much better in this.
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The tempeture reading should be taken directly on the heatmat with some slight presure in the probe as this is what a snake would do on its belly. You will either need more efficient heating or to hold off of food untill the temps rise again when did he last feed?
i disagree with this
unless you are letting the snake lie directly on the heatmat

the probes should be where the snake can lie and that should not be directly on a heatmat
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