corn genetic help... breeding what with what??

[charlottej1983]

basically i'm just wondering out of our snakes what to pair with what, and what the out comes will be. i am no good with genetics. at all and as much as i have tried to understand it, i dont. lol.
sooooo we have
females
pastel motley
butter motley
miami
hypo
normal stripe

males
butter motley
pastel motley
amber.

i know if i breed the pastels or the butters, i'll get them. but if i mix them will i just get hets? or does it depend if they are possible hets?
(confused all ready lol)

many thanks.

[Athravan]

I'm assuming pastel motley is considered ghost motley in this instance?


pastel motley x butter motley = Normal motley het amel, anery, hypo, caramel.
pastel motley x pastel motley = pastel motley
pastel motley x amber = Hypo het anery caramel motley

butter motley x butter motley = butter motley
butter motley x pastel motley = normal motley het amel, anery, hypo, caramel
butter motley x amber = caramel het amel, hypo, motley

miami x butter motley = normal het amel, caramel, motley (butter motley)
miami x pastel motley = normal het hypo, anery, motley (ghost motley)
miami x amber = normal het hypo caramel (amber)

hypo x butter motley = normal het hypo, amel, caramel, motley
hypo x pastel motley = hypo het anery motley
hypo x amber = hypo het caramel

normal stripe x butter motley = normal motley het amel, caramel, stripe
normal stripe x pastel motley = normal motley het anery, hypo, stripe
normal stripe x amber = normal het hypo, caramel, stripe

Possible hets will make a lot of difference though

[andybe18]

u need to breed your visuals to the same visuals if u want to get them as offspring
therefore I would do -
1-pastel motley-pastel motley or amber for ghost(poss pastel) het motley and caramel
2- butter motley-butter motley or amber for caramel het amel and hypo
normal stripe to butter motley cos normal may be het for amel so get amel motleys if so and normal motleys if not
3 - hypo - pastel motley - hypo het anery and motley
4 - miami to anything to get normals het for whatever the male is

your snakes will have some hets tho, that's where the fun lies!
try this page The Corn Calculator - Corn snake genetics prediction

[charlottej1983]

cool, thanks. is there any other morph we could buy to put with what we have to get anything different if that makes sense?

[Athravan]

Not really other than a stripe to go with the stripe or an amber to go with the amber, you can't get anything out that you don't put in, so to speak, so unless the normal has hets, you're only ever going to get normals (with hets depending on the other snake), with a hypo no hets, the best you can get is hypos back out, and so on.

The butter motleys and pastel motleys I would just breed to get 100% butter / pastel motley, those are fairly popular morphs anyway and there's not much else you can do with those to get higher end combos unless you fancy breeding in bloodreds or something like that and keeping the offspring for projects.

If it's from a selling standpoint hets don't sell for much these days, so go for whatever you can get visually. If it's for your own project then decide what you want to get, 3, 6, 9 years down the line etc. and then what you need to put into it will be easier to find.